In the OP, I would determine the disposition of the runner based upon the timing. If the runner was moving on the pitch and there was no effort being made by the catcher to make a play prior to the ball call being made, that runner will most likely stay there. If it is apparent the runner only advanced due to the ball call, the runner will be returned to 1B.
Since this was caused by poor umpire mechanics I would return the runner to first no matter what--and let 10-3-c cover any protest.
You have mentioned baseball a few times in your posts. Don't. Different size field, different equipment, different philosophies, different rules, different game.
True--but from strictly an umpire mechanics point of view one can learn from both sports.
Had the PU in the OP done it the baseball way--in which the out would have stood-- they would not have had to deal with this situation in the first place.
Since this was caused by poor umpire mechanics I would return the runner to first no matter what--and let 10-3-c cover any protest.
You have mentioned baseball a few times in your posts. Don't. Different size field, different equipment, different philosophies, different rules, different game.
True--but from strictly an umpire mechanics point of view one can learn from both sports.
Had the PU in the OP done it the baseball way--in which the out would have stood-- they would not have had to deal with this situation in the first place.
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