A que phrase I've used to help is chin up on release. Push tall & chin up on release. It's worked pretty well for most. Just a thought. Faster arm and waiting for the arm is important. If the kick out/ leap is started before the hand and ball pass the hip from the downswing to the upswing, then the timing will be off due to dragging the arm from behind and the brain has to wait for the arm causing the finish mechanics to fall apart. Resulting in a less accurate slower pitch. I hope that made some sense. Remember, you don't have to agree or try something I talk about. Just sharing my experience in case it may help. Thanks again.Gotcha. And that's basically the position we're in (or almost in). She's finally getting a consistent platform. She can do it pretty well without a ball, but up until the past few sessions she would revert completely to weak FSR and forward lean if the ball was in her hand. I was struggling to find the right patterns or cues to get her sorted, then got a few pointers from another instructor that finally got things to click for her. Now we're much closer to consistent FSR and correct posture. I think with a few more sessions she'll be there and we can start aiming again. She hasn't thrown a full pitch to me in months.