Scoring for reaching base on a dropped 3rd strike

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Jul 13, 2014
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Nashville, TN
A run resulting from a K-WP could also be unearned depending on how the inning plays out.
I don't believe this is correct. From ncfa.org (https://nfca.org/web_docs/store/ATECBeyondBasicsOfScoring.pdf - page 51):


5. Bases gained by the following, and where the runner scores, result in an earned
run (defensive interference is considered an opportunity for a putout):
a - Hit,
b - Sacrifice bunt or sacrifice fly,
c - Stolen base,
d - Fielder's choke (putouts on succeeding runner),
e - Bases on balls,
f - Batters hit by pitch,
g - illegal pitch, and
h - Wild pitch (including a third strike wild pitch where the batter
reaches first base safely).
 
Oct 24, 2010
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I thought I might get called out.

Don't neglect this:
2. Earned runs are determined by reconstructing the inning as it would have been
played without errors and passed balls (including errors on the pitcher).

Section 5 means that all of (a-h) may be charged as earned runs subject to errorless play.

Example: The inning starts with two routine outs. None on base.
If instead of K-WP, consider B3 reaches base as if walked. (these are equivalent.)
B4 hits a ground ball to F6 who commits an error and R1 and BR are safe.
Now it's R1 and R2 and B5 hits a home run. Are any of those runs earned?

ETA: slagothar makes an important point about the nature of F6's error in the post below.
Potential earned runs may become unearned when reconstructing the inning without errors, passed balls
 
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Jul 13, 2014
89
8
Nashville, TN
A WP is not an error. Neither is a PB, but note that it calls out errors and PBs, because bases gained by those that resulted in a score would be unearned.

For your example, If the F6 error would have resulted in an out, then all runs would be unearned. If the F6 error resulted in an extra base for R1 and R2 (e.g. if they were on 2nd and 3rd instead of first and second), the HR would result in all three runs being earned.
 
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Aug 29, 2011
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NorCal
So, a run resulting from a K-WP could also be unearned depending on how the inning plays out.
No. runs resulting from wild pitches are considered earned runs. So any runs that score as a result of the K-WP will be earned.
A batter that reaches on a K-PB will always be unearned because the batter would have been out is not for the PB.

Other runs that score in the inning may or may not be earned depending on how the rest of the inning plays out with a K-PB. Assuming no pitching changing.
 

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