Been working on this pitch for a long time now. Not here to debate whether it rises or simply doesn't drop. The other day, DD and I were working out. We started playing with her grip on the rise. Suddenly and almost out of nowhere, she throws three or four pitches in a row that are clearly different. Not just high, but almost hit me square in the face due to the movement of the ball. We thought we had it. Finally had the right spin, grip and speed to generate the desired effect. Started to get dark, so we decided to get back to it the next day. Yesterday, right back to where she was before our breakthrough. Basically just a high pitch that spins backwards. Now she is more determined than ever to get it to move. Back to practice.