Jordy Bahl ball position

[El Oso]

Looked pretty hard for pics and in the only ones I could find, she is no where near palm up at 9, 10 or 11 o'clock. But maybe they were change ups. Although the odds of the only 4 pics out there all being change ups are astronomically low, anyone find some good pics or video of her from the 3rd base side to give us a better idea of what she's doing at 9 o'clock consistently?

 

[Vertigo]

I bet she has the ball facing 3B as she gets closer to 8, allowing IR to take over.

 

[kibadbo]

Oh, no! Another J Bahl thread. We are still arguing about her on the 28+ page thread from a week ago.

 

[_MIA_]

You know you are doing something right when you get two threads named after you.. We should send her a DFP recognition award

 

[Ken B]

There are several well known pitchers who get into this hand orientation, but by 7:30, they have reloaded for whip. Ricketts and Finch?

 

[El Oso]

There are several well known pitchers who get into this hand orientation, but by 7:30, they have reloaded for whip. Ricketts and Finch?

I figure she must reload but was wondering if there was any video or pics out there to confirm. I can't find any but then again I'm pretty technologically challenged.

Does the "reloading" cause any inefficiencies versus staying palm up the entire time? I guess it doesn't hurt her too much since she throws gas but was curious about the effect in regards to the normal pitcher, not the unicorn AKA Jordy Bahl. Haha.

 

[ArmWhip]

IR, strictly speaking, does not involve the position of the wrist and forearm. There are two other subtle actions and positions that have an effect and often go unnoticed. One is radial deviation of the wrist, the other is forearm pronation. Add both of these to the arm action along with IR and you have maximum output. But radial deviation and forearm pronation are difficult to teach and so subtle that it's hard to tell by looking if a pitcher is utilizing both. Ball position becomes more important when using these two additional actions. The diagrams below show these actions.

Examining the Forearms – POST COMPETITIVE INSIGHT

Limitations in the wrist are the Achilles heel of push dominant training programs. Repeated gripping and hoisting of bars and bells turn the hands and wrists i

postcompetitiveinsight.com

 

[Lance Steckler]

i'd like the ball to be more in her fingers and not touching palm of hand to increase speed. But she's already got some velo.

 

[Jeffrey]

First two are rise grips likely based on where the laces are. She may have been taught to come over that way and exaggerate the snap under the ball as she comes down. The third pic is hard to see, but the Monarch one is definitely a change-up. Both the rise and change can be thrown deep in the palm, but there's no way she's getting under that ball in that pic and she's clearly off the laces. Lots of girls come down in more of a handshake orientation and then by 9:00 they are re-loaded or not depending on the pitch.

 

[Shawn]

Best I have right now, I don’t think all pitchers get the hand completely under the ball. Some face 3B.