Explaining to a coach about the high level swing

[Wannabe]

It's difficult to put it all down here. I have been contemplating what I was going to post and how to post it.

He will get their hips turned some but not enough IMO.

Another one he will tell me: "watch out for bat wrap" but in a sense, that is what I am teaching my kids. Coil/uncoil

Maybe 15 years ago girls were not near this athletic, or at least we didn't think they were. But I've seen some pretty darn athletic kids, even in 8u.

Isn't it mainly about timing with coil/uncoil? At least that is what I am seeing.


Thanks for the replies so far!

 

[Perfect Circle]

I am finding that technique is more of a philosophical question than a right vs wrong question. It seems most agree on what a high level swing looks like but there is disagreement on how to get there.

I personally have given up trying to educate other parents/coaches unless they approach me and specifically ask me about it.

Choosing technique is the unalienable right of the $ponsor...

 

[CoachKevin]

Sometimes it's a fight you cannot win. A few years ago I had a disagreement with then the HS coach about hitting. He wanted level swing, twist the back foot (although he didn't say squish the bug), ect. When he told me that his DD (who was in College) said the College Coach wanted her to have a weight shift, he mocked it. So I built a very nice powerpoint with videos and all. Know what? He didn't want to see it, didn't care. He actually told another coach, "Who should you believe, a guy that read it in a book, or me that is actually teaching kids?" He still makes tons of $$$$$ teaching HE to pitchers... go figure

 

[CoogansBluff]

I personally have given up trying to educate other parents/coaches unless they approach me and specifically ask me about it.

So I built a very nice powerpoint with videos and all. Know what? He didn't want to see it, didn't care.

Unless you're the head coach of your team, a professional hitting coach, or a former high-level player, I have learned that you will be thought crazy if you attempt to educate people on hitting. I still can't resist doing it sometimes, even sending video to parents. But it doesn't work. What I'm saying, in essence, is "I don't care what they say at N.C. State's hitting camp, that's not the way elite hitters do it.'' Who's going to buy that?

Send me the powerpoint. I'll look at it.

 

[rdbass]

It's difficult to put it all down here. I have been contemplating what I was going to post and how to post it.

He will get their hips turned some but not enough IMO.

Another one he will tell me: "watch out for bat wrap" but in a sense, that is what I am teaching my kids. Coil/uncoil

Maybe 15 years ago girls were not near this athletic, or at least we didn't think they were. But I've seen some pretty darn athletic kids, even in 8u.

Isn't it mainly about timing with coil/uncoil? At least that is what I am seeing.


Thanks for the replies so far!

Just on the bold above. You will find that that some 'coaches' can't grasp turn away(coil) and turning back(uncoil) and think the hitter has enough time to make these moves. I'm just loosly using these terms. I have learned to keep my mouth shut and instruct my DD on the proper sequence. When they see your DD hitting game after game they may seek you out. They may not?

 

[rdbass]

I am finding that technique is more of a philosophical question than a right vs wrong question. It seems most agree on what a high level swing looks like but there is disagreement on how to get there.

I personally have given up trying to educate other parents/coaches unless they approach me and specifically ask me about it.[/QUOTE]

There it is right there.

 

[Wannabe]

Send it me too lol.

These were the answers I was afraid I would get. I had hoped someone had had success in converting an old school coach.

 

[Eric F]

Send it me too lol.

These were the answers I was afraid I would get. I had hoped someone had had success in converting an old school coach.

You probably won't be able to convert him, unless he has the willingness to learn and change. A lot of people don't like being told they've been doing things wrong.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

"Turn the barrel" might make sense to someone already familiar and able to visualize the swing, but I wouldn't go there with someone coming from another style. Most kids asked to "turn the barrel" will roll the bat in their hands.

Then the instruction on 'when' to "turn the barrel" is likely lacking.

 

[guero_gordo]

Then the instruction on 'when' to "turn the barrel" is likely lacking.

Yes, not an intuitive cue, thus best left out of the initial conversation.