10yo Maddie

[bullethead]

Good job. There is a good clip of Pirates-McCutchen towards the end of BatDragon's thread - it is a rear view/slow motion - watch his top hand real close. May be helpful for you and your daughter - you can see the top hand pull up/away from bottom hand. Then focus on his top hand wrist and forearm orientation as he moves back toward contact. Its visible with Manny Ramirez too in some clips. Since you are a get up and swing it kind of dad - get a wood bat and play around with emulating McCutchens hand action

Personally I like her sequence in the game swing, it seems correct to me plus its tighter and snappy - just needs some guidance regarding hand action. Have fun!

 

[Eric F]

This is the hand-action template I had her look at yesterday...

After watching it for a while, she said, "His hands turn in the same place". Yes! She found the words to describe it that made sense to her. "Pivot" and "swivel" weren't getting me anywhere - LOL. She obviously hasn't been able to replicate the action yet, but I think the path in her own head became a little clearer.

 

[Eric F]

Here's another swing from yesterday's session where she FINALLY gives it a max effort...


I'd like to see her swing with this effort a lot more often. Like ALL THE TIME!!!

 

[straightleg]

This is the hand-action template I had her look at yesterday...

After watching it for a while, she said, "His hands turn in the same place". Yes! She found the words to describe it that made sense to her. "Pivot" and "swivel" weren't getting me anywhere - LOL. She obviously hasn't been able to replicate the action yet, but I think the path in her own head became a little clearer.

Eric
Do you think hitters hands can turn in the same plane without even thinking about it? I personally have never used that cue.
Not saying good or bad, just never used it



SL

 

[Eric F]

Eric
Do you think hitters hands can turn in the same plane without even thinking about it? I personally have never used that cue.
Not saying good or bad, just never used it



SL

"Hands turn in the same place" (not plane) wasn't a cue from me. It was Maddie's interpretation of what she was seeing in the Mig clip. I thought it was a great way for a 10yo to describe it in a way that makes sense in her own head.

Brooke does a pretty good job of it, too...

It's not a rigid, fixed-in-space kind of "same place". It's more about the relationship of the HPP with the rear shoulder. Then again, you're not much of an HPP kind of guy (as I understand your approach to the swing, anyway).

 

[Eric F]

Thanks for the giffery, knightsb!

 

[coachbob]

Thanks for the giffery, knightsb!

Wow Eric. That looks good, IMO. Feels deep and pulling around the corner to me. Weight seems more back. Nice!

 

[Eric F]

Thanks for all the kinds words, guys! She's seeing (some of) the difference, too.

I'm seeing an improvement in her ability to get the bat moving behind her shoulder, instead of being beside her. This is getting things in place to where the hip can start pulling the hands instead of the hands/hips pushing. I'm seeing the hands still getting started a little bit early, before her stride is down. Delaying the hands will allow the rag to wring tighter, and get her more in line with Brooke's pattern.

 

[straightleg]

"Hands turn in the same place" (not plane) wasn't a cue from me. It was Maddie's interpretation of what she was seeing in the Mig clip. I thought it was a great way for a 10yo to describe it in a way that makes sense in her own head.

Brooke does a pretty good job of it, too...

It's not a rigid, fixed-in-space kind of "same place". It's more about the relationship of the HPP with the rear shoulder. Then again, you're not much of an HPP kind of guy (as I understand your approach to the swing, anyway).

Same place... Makes more sense, sorry misread it. I like her swing. I believe she would hit it harder if she stood the bat up taller before she let it go.
Instead of hitting across the ball a taller bat will make her hit more north and south....



SL

 

[mann]

This is the hand-action template I had her look at yesterday...

After watching it for a while, she said, "His hands turn in the same place". Yes! She found the words to describe it that made sense to her. "Pivot" and "swivel" weren't getting me anywhere - LOL. She obviously hasn't been able to replicate the action yet, but I think the path in her own head became a little clearer.

In my swing image the hands do start turning in the same place, while moving from the result of staying connected, (shoulder /torso rotation)
Sorry if I offend anyone, but it can be a good teaching point.

the hands can start moving away from the connection spot at any given time, as a result of pitch location,( which I like to think of as pre contact extension).