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    DD working on getting more into that front side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaker1 View Post
    Ken, I'd like your thoughts, and anyone else's, on trying to work more up than back at landing. As I watch some of the pitchers in the recent WCWS, I see kids who seem to work more forward with their weight, up to the point of being right on top of that front leg at release.
    Shaker, thanks for the post and good thoughts for sure. It is amazing how so many things work together (and have to work together) to make it "pitch perfect". I know Coach James, yourself, a few others, and I have had some conversations on drive leg adduction vs core torque awhile back which is not to your post but all related. So I stumbled across something buried in an old thread a few months back that you might find interesting and possibly helpful. I for one have never focused any effort or discussions on a glute squeeze in pitching and it hasn't been discussed in most threads over the years but for me and DD's it has actually been very helpful. I always try to point out that I am a SLOW learner so you and others may already be doing this or may think it is not the right approach.

    For us it bridged the core torque camp versus the drive leg adduction camp into the "Butt squeeze camp" for lack of better words.

    As it relates to your post.....the appearance of being more on top versus back happens when we do this. Posture is much better when we do this, front side resistance is stronger, etc. etc. and velocity has increased without question.

    Anyway, I don't mean to take away from your post but felt it relates a bit and something to look into and try out. Please share your thoughts, findings if you try, etc. as I would like to hear what others have experienced with all this.

    Lastly, it would be wrong if I didn't give kuddos to Java who posted this nugget. Again, you may have already seen this, etc. etc. but if not it may be something to look into.

    By the way, your DD looks good!

    Here is the original thread: https://www.discussfastpitch.com/sof...ack-leg-3.html

    Here is Java's post:

    Always viewed this as an adduction (moving towards the center of the body) movement... resulting from the contraction (squeeze/clench) of well-centered... and largest of the muscles... the glutes (butt cheeks). The contraction (clench) will return the rear leg... or attempt to... to its normal anatomical position (position when standing erect and at rest). As Rick mentioned, the curvilinear (object moving in a curved path) nature is a resultant path from the GRF and then the contraction of the glutes.

    Just like batting, the rear leg isn't pushed forward... it's sucked in by the very dominant and proximal (close to center) glute (butt cheek) contraction (squeeze).

    We may see a hip snap... but I think the resultant linear (straight line) forces that we brake against (GRF), coupled with the path of the arm circle, coupled with a contraction of the glutes... are 'the cause' of the resultant IR and 'snap'.

    There is a post or two in the DM thread on this. Good share, Ken.

    So... for Ken,

    As you stride out... you brace for impact. Impact occurs... forward momentum stops (or slows). Arm path is coming around... and because your arm is attached to the body... it assists in curving your body... and when you squeeze your butt cheeks together... that squeeze... coupled with all the other things... brings the leg in towards the center of the body... with the appearance of a hip snap.

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    That post always cracked me up...
    Last edited by Ken B; 07-29-2018 at 12:16 AM.
    Some of my favorite pitching sites, threads and videos: https://www.discussfastpitch.com/sof...tml#post449172 and https://fastpitchfoundations.com/

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    @shaker1 Nice work!

    Depending on the kid, I use a few different cues to achieve good FSR. A hop is one. Pulling an imaginary rubber band from the toes to the nose is another. Step backs, nose behind the toes, stay tall, keep the right (or left) shoulder back, chin up... There are more that I can't think of now. Each kid seems to respond differently but it's good to have as many cues in your tool bucket to try until one clicks.

    BTW, I think your daughter's FSR is better than some you named... I would consider her a model example of good FSR.
    Last edited by Ken B; 07-29-2018 at 12:09 AM.
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