New here looking for help

pattar said:

Why go to an instructor if you aren't going to listen..that makes no sense..

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Hahaha....go hang your "instructor" sign, and then get back to us after a few dozen students or so, and see if they all "listen" the way you'd have expected them to when you first agreed to work with them.

Kind of like "why go to a college course if you aren't going to listen..." to the instructor. Or do you find that 100% of your students listen, and do precisely what you instruct them to do....and remember there's "Rate My Professors" that there's not for "Rate My Hitting Instructor" that we can always look into if you're unsure. Lol....

As for the OP, and all of the level, tilted, or whatever shoulder deals you're hearing or thinking about at this time...just remember that the movement(s) of the shoulders are an "effect" of the proper or improper movements of other body parts leading up to the launch and/or swing, and not a "cause" that it sounds like you're asking about (at least to me it does anyway).

If one sets out teaching what to do with the shoulders specifically, then you're putting the cart in front of the horse, and expecting the horse to push it instead of pull it, and that's not how the "mechanics" of that combination were intended...same with hitting, and worrying about the shoulders instead of worrying about what's causing them to do whatever it is you're looking for them to do or not do.

There was/is an old saying wrt the shoulders being "bypassed", and in this case I think that might be some of the best advice you might want to consider at this point in time. But that's JMO...OMMV.

^^^^ This^^^

Focus on using the legs correctly and THEN you may have to mention a shoulder tilt (more so to allow it).

Leaning back is not the same thing...


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Mudders Brudder said:

Hahaha....go hang your "instructor" sign, and then get back to us after a few dozen students or so, and see if they all "listen" the way you'd have expected them to when you first agreed to work with them.

Kind of like "why go to a college course if you aren't going to listen..." to the instructor. Or do you find that 100% of your students listen, and do precisely what you instruct them to do....and remember there's "Rate My Professors" that there's not for "Rate My Hitting Instructor" that we can always look into if you're unsure. Lol....

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I didn't say I didn't expect it to happen only that it makes no sense to pay somebody to instruct and then just ignore the instruction. If you are going to do that buy a bucket of balls and a L-screen and go at it. Also being able to do what the instructor asks (in hitting..or college) is different than ignoring the instruction and doing it your own way. In other words just because I told a student they need to integrate by parts to develop a weak form of a differential equation doesn't mean they have the skills or ability to do it correctly (in reality if they are in my graduate course they should but that is a different story). However if they instead decide to take the derivative of the integrand instead of integrating by parts well that is just stupid...