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Jun 17, 2009
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Wouldn't it be the initial action of the hips and legs that gets the "barrel-turn" going?

No. The rear hip and rear leg are already moving before the barrel is turned. Perhaps think in terms of overlap.

What you may be feeling is the final push of the rear leg, along with the lateral tilt, as the hands work the barrel.

The hands are in control of the release of the swing. Without the hands there is no high-level launch of the barrel.
 
Jun 18, 2012
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Utah
No. The rear hip and rear leg are already moving before the barrel is turned. Perhaps think in terms of overlap.

What you may be feeling is the final push of the rear leg, along with the lateral tilt, as the hands work the barrel.

The hands are in control of the release of the swing. Without the hands there is no high-level launch of the barrel.

Okay, but couldn't one also say that without the hips and the legs there is no "high-level launch" of the barrel?

Thus, I like the term "overlap" or "together," or "sequential."
 
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Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
Okay, but couldn't one also say that without the hips and the legs there is no "high-level launch" of the barrel?

Thus, I like the term "overlap" or "together," or "sequential."

You wrote the following ....

Wouldn't it be the initial action of the hips and legs that gets the "barrel-turn" going?

The initial action of the rear leg (hips if you must) does not turn the barrel, or even capture transition of the barrel. The initial motion of the rear leg is timed to the pitcher, such that the focus can then shift primarily to the eyes & hands for control of the swing. If you believe in 'overlap' then you believe that the lower body is already underway, and yet the barrel has not been launched (turned) ... hence you can't believe that the initial move of the lower body turns the barrel. The initial action of the lower body is more about obtaining a favorable motion to support hand usage .... such that the eyes and hands can then time the ball, and be in charge of turning the barrel.
 
May 3, 2014
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As important the wrists are to a swing - a well sequenced move allows the wrists to do their job of sending the barrel into its swing path. The arms are allowed to shorten and lengthen the swing radius as directed by the eyes/brain.

So, I do agree with this post but it seems like at first it is all over the place.

If a hitter learns how to make a swing in sequence - the emphasis on turning the barrel is moot. Talking about the rear leg is an incomplete theory - the initial action of the rear leg is to receive the hitters load/gather move without swaying or buckling. But, the rear leg is not acting alone in this initial move - there are many other muscles included in this initial move.

I should have mentioned that I also believe it is a middle out move - meaning the muscular contractions start in the core.

You wrote the following ....



The initial action of the rear leg (hips if you must) does not turn the barrel, or even capture transition of the barrel. The initial motion of the rear leg is timed to the pitcher, such that the focus can then shift primarily to the eyes & hands for control of the swing. If you believe in 'overlap' then you believe that the lower body is already underway, and yet the barrel has not been launched (turned) ... hence you can't believe that the initial move of the lower body turns the barrel. The initial action of the lower body is more about obtaining a favorable motion to support hand usage .... such that the eyes and hands can then time the ball, and be in charge of turning the barrel.
 
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Jun 17, 2009
15,036
0
Portland, OR
As important the wrists are to a swing - a well sequenced move allows the wrists to do their job of sending the barrel into its swing path. The arms are allowed to shorten and lengthen the swing radius as directed by the eyes/brain.

So, I do agree with this post but it seems like at first it is all over the place.

If a hitter learns how to make a swing in sequence - the emphasis on turning the barrel is moot. Talking about the rear leg is an incomplete theory - the initial action of the rear leg is to receive the hitters load/gather move without swaying or buckling. But, the rear leg is not acting alone in this initial move - there are many other muscles included in this initial move.

I should have mentioned that I also believe it is a middle out move - meaning the muscular contractions start in the core.

Bold above ..... my take is a bit different .... I would re-word what you wrote here more like this .....

If a hitter learns how to make a swing in sequence - the emphasis shifts to the hands and eyes as the ball is released.

In a sense you want to "seek it with your hands". With your sequence correct your focus can purely be on the "hands ripping the handle off of the barrel".

View the following video segment, crank up the volume, and try to make sense of Bagger's advice.



"Seek it with your hands. Don't think about it. Feel it. The hands is wiser than your head is ever going to be."

Think about what Bagger is saying here. There is wisdom in it from a hitter's perspective.
 
Apr 17, 2012
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Finally remembered to pick up pvc for do it yourself connector. $9.00. Sweet. Now if I can figure out how to make a good tanner tee cone ill be onto something
 
Jun 18, 2010
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Finally remembered to pick up pvc for do it yourself connector. $9.00. Sweet. Now if I can figure out how to make a good tanner tee cone ill be onto something

I tried using some rubber gasket material from Lowes (below), secured it to the top of the Tee with Gorilla Tape. It worked for a few weeks, but ultimately tore. I ended up buying the Tanner Tee top and made the rest per TJ's instructions.

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