When success shows up....

[radness]

When success shows up,
Dont change it!
Yet some coaches cant help themselves....

How many have encountered this....
IN TRAVEL BALL .
A successful athlete shows up for a tryout.
Say Coach doesnt know the player.
Player proceeds to show there skills.
Glove work
Footwork
Hitting
Pitching
Catching

Suddenly
Off the bucket comes the coach....
Pulls player aside.
To tell them what their doing is wrong....
And do it this way....

Hmmmm?
The player showed up with success!

Watched coaches do this to players i dont know. Yet can clearly see their talent.
Have had talented young players encounter this. Even top tier D1 talent encounter this. Coaches who had no clue the athlete already recruited by top D1 schools....looking at the coach. Respectfully listening....not going to change a thing.
Walking away from the day of softball saying...
"Uhh No, not changing!"

This may sound arrogant
However...simply said,
If your kid is successful...
Why is it some coaches
Say "Hurray talent"
And another coach blind?

Whats the deal with coaches that do this?
Thought to let the viewpoints here on DFP handle this conundrum.

 

[Traps71]

I can't speak to upper ages/levels of travel or college, but at lower levels (Rec, 10U-14U) I think it is either poor quality of coaching and/or, I assume, well-meaning ignorance. Some coaches do not know the limits of their knowledge and seem to have a theory of everything (hitting, pitching, pick a skill) that they insist is The Way...when it really was maybe kind of sort of the way when they last played baseball in LL 25 years ago.

I've made this comment before, but this is very prevalent with softball pitching...the level of ignorance about mechanics and the amount of work involved can be astounding and many times is directly proportional to how confident they are in giving your DD advice. I have my DD trained to smile and nod and then completely ignore their "helpful tips." Some greatest hits include: "Throw the ball on a line, 3 feet high the whole way there!"; "You're not finishing your pitch!", "Stay Open!," "You need to throw a strike here!", "Stay in your Superman", "I want you to throw this one really hard!", "You keep missing high!," etc., etc.

 

[Tatonka]

Following someone's lead here, couldn't resist! ;-)

(Sarcasm on)(Sarcasm off)

It never ceases to amaze and seemingly happens at almost (?) every level and every position. A little humility and self-reflection would go a long way for some of these types that know everything and refuse to change or open their eyes. Additionally, these are often the ones who will never admit they made a mistake or say they are sorry for something instead the blame usually gets misdirected back at the player or somewhere else. Video, stopwatches, results, etc., all get waved aside and dismissed because "that's not how we used to do it" or ______. *Fill in the blank with your own experiences.

 

[chinamigarden]

I’ve seen coaches who don’t instruct players who make errors. “That’s OK, good try, you’ll get the next one”... But will talk for 5 minutes to a kid who made the play, but he thinks it could have been done better.
I know that not all outs are
Done correctly or that not all errors are
Made by poor fielders. So that’s not what I’m talking about.

I mean third base charges a ball and makes the play and then for 5 minutes is instructed on how she should have made the play bare handed, or use the glove next
Time... but if the ball pops out of the RFs
Glove it’s “that’s OK get the next one”

 

[chinamigarden]

Btw @RADcatcher. I don’t know who you are
Or where you came from but you start some great topics. You make people think about the game. I for one am happy you found our site.

 

[Xplode22]

As a coach, I see it most with batting. Every daddy coach in rec ball wants the kids to hit their way. As Traps said, I’ve trained my dd to smile and politely ignore.
My DDs pitching coach goes berserk when she hears coaches say “you need to throw strikes here”. That’s what they are trying to do. Don’t add pressure.

 

[Xplode22]

Btw @RADcatcher. I don’t know who you are
Or where you came from but you start some great topics. You make people think about the game. I for one am happy you found our site.

I was thinking the same thing

 

[chinamigarden]

As a coach, I see it most with batting. Every daddy coach in rec ball wants the kids to hit their way. As Traps said, I’ve trained my dd to smile and politely ignore.
My DDs pitching coach goes berserk when she hears coaches say “you need to throw strikes here”. That’s what they are trying to do. Don’t add pressure.

My dd and I still joke about that. Occasionally as a dad we will give our adult aged kids advice that is open and obvious to them. My dd will give me the look and then one
Of us will say. “And throw strikes”.

 

[radness]

Btw @RADcatcher. I don’t know who you are
Or where you came from but you start some great topics. You make people think about the game. I for one am happy you found our site.

Thank you very much!
Think is goal!

 

[_MIA_]

Btw @RADcatcher. I don’t know who you are
Or where you came from but you start some great topics. You make people think about the game. I for one am happy you found our site.