It Passed......

[Eric F]

I have mixed feelings in regard to this too. Junior high kids committing is ridiculous, but one of my greatest frustrations of the recruiting process was all of the stupid rules regarding communication with coaches. It would be so much easier if they could just call you back or even contact a family first to express interest.

It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out in regards to showcases. With such a limited window for exposure it’s almost going to be imperative to get on a big name showcase teams that plays in the top showcases. D1 coaches simply won’t have time to make it to local tourney’s to see one player. DII coaches on the other hand have got to love this. They can go after sophomores unabated and convince them to commit before they can even talk to a D1. I like the effort, but I’m not convinced this makes things better for families and players.

You make some valid points, MNDad.

 

[Orange Socks]

With such a limited window for exposure it’s almost going to be imperative to get on a big name showcase teams that plays in the top showcases. D1 coaches simply won’t have time to make it to local tourney’s to see one player. DII coaches on the other hand have got to love this. They can go after sophomores unabated and convince them to commit before they can even talk to a D1. I like the effort, but I’m not convinced this makes things better for families and players.

Currently the window of exposure is very limited for D1 recruitment. D1 coaches are committed kids 7,8,9th grades that are already on top showcase teams. If you are not already in the pipeline early you are not getting the exposure. This is why it is crazy. The new rule will allow for late bloomer kids to develop. No one ever talks about the kids that committed and then just disappear. I can count on one hand a number of recent players that are not even playing ball at the college they committed to...just being a student. Second thoughts, didn't work hard enough, didn't develop, lost interest, changed their minds, etc. The odds of that happening lessens the later the process.

What were the coaches doing 10 years ago when they were in line to talk to players after their last game in Colorado? Wouldn't that be cool for that to happen to your kid? It's not going to be a blood bath. My DD's former 16U coach got to take 5 paid for official visits! How cool is that? That does not happen AT ALL right now.

I just saw two youngin's just commit to A&M. It's about to get crazy with a flurry of commitments.

 

[justanotherguy]

What bugs me is that if the kid wants to initiate contact, she can't. Really, I think all of this could have simply been fixed by requiring any offer to be binding. If you're a school and you want Susie 12yo on your team, then you have to make it official. No "verbal" BS. If the kid backs out, then you get your committed money back.

 

[marriard]

What were the coaches doing 10 years ago when they were in line to talk to players after their last game in Colorado? Wouldn't that be cool for that to happen to your kid? It's not going to be a blood bath. My DD's former 16U coach got to take 5 paid for official visits! How cool is that? That does not happen AT ALL right now.

Pretending it is going to go back to how it was 10 years or more ago is a pipe dream.

Between the internet, more teams, more wide spread talent, more tournaments, more orgs, more communication options and how recruiting has evolved - I can't see it not being a blood bath. I don't need to wait to see some kid at Colorado any more - between the internet and other options, I have access to lots more info than I ever could have hoped for even just 2 or 3 years ago.

Come Sept 1 every coach is going to know who they are calling, and in what order. There may be some top 10 pitcher who can wait and take their time, but for everyone else it is going to be insane.

The poor kid who thinks they are committed today because they wanted to get in before this happened... well you can't talk to the coach any more so when the coach changes some of these kids may have to wait years to find out where they stand. That should be fun.

I truly wish you are right, but I can't see it. I think it is going to be UGLY.

 

[Rambler34]

Currently the window of exposure is very limited for D1 recruitment. D1 coaches are committed kids 7,8,9th grades that are already on top showcase teams. If you are not already in the pipeline early you are not getting the exposure. This is why it is crazy. The new rule will allow for late bloomer kids to develop. No one ever talks about the kids that committed and then just disappear. I can count on one hand a number of recent players that are not even playing ball at the college they committed to...just being a student. Second thoughts, didn't work hard enough, didn't develop, lost interest, changed their minds, etc. The odds of that happening lessens the later the process.

What were the coaches doing 10 years ago when they were in line to talk to players after their last game in Colorado? Wouldn't that be cool for that to happen to your kid? It's not going to be a blood bath. My DD's former 16U coach got to take 5 paid for official visits! How cool is that? That does not happen AT ALL right now.

I just saw two youngin's just commit to A&M. It's about to get crazy with a flurry of commitments.

I think you are right about the late bloomers. I honestly think it will be great for my DD. We have been told multiple times she is a SEC talent with a mid major body. This will give her some more time to push the girls that have SEC bodies but wind up with mid major talent in the end. We also have a dominant pitcher who is 5'2" and in game situations will cruise in the low 60's now. She shouldn't be able to do the things she does but she works her tail off and is constantly improving and is flat out a better pitcher than several of the 2021 commits that I know. If she was 5'9" she would have had offers last summer or fall when she had an ERA under 1.30 while playing in the power pools of the top showcases in the SE. It will be good for her and also coaches to be able to see her develop a little more and see how she compares in a year and a half before making offers.

 

[_MIA_]

The partial scholarship portion is what gives parents/players even more need to weigh options. "I am getting 40% from this school (A) but only 20% from school (B). I really am interested in school (C) but they are giving only 25%. These rules don't seem to benefit players/prospects at all and if it was really that important they would do it in all sports.

Ok, this the last straw, I am signing up my 8 year old DD for football tomorrow!! She is hitting the weight room with me tomorrow and is going to end up being 6'2" 250 lb linebacker

 

[STRIKE3]

Currently the window of exposure is very limited for D1 recruitment. D1 coaches are committed kids 7,8,9th grades that are already on top showcase teams. If you are not already in the pipeline early you are not getting the exposure. This is why it is crazy. The new rule will allow for late bloomer kids to develop. No one ever talks about the kids that committed and then just disappear. I can count on one hand a number of recent players that are not even playing ball at the college they committed to...just being a student. Second thoughts, didn't work hard enough, didn't develop, lost interest, changed their minds, etc. The odds of that happening lessens the later the process.

What were the coaches doing 10 years ago when they were in line to talk to players after their last game in Colorado? Wouldn't that be cool for that to happen to your kid? It's not going to be a blood bath. My DD's former 16U coach got to take 5 paid for official visits! How cool is that? That does not happen AT ALL right now.

I just saw two youngin's just commit to A&M. It's about to get crazy with a flurry of commitments.

Good points! Coaches knew this was going to happen or at least figured it was a high probability of passing and committed some kids (young ones) while they still could/can. Convinced that is why we have seen more 6 and 7th graders recently. Get em while you can! Personally, I think it stinks for the kids but they won't know that for awhile.

 

[STRIKE3]

Ok, this the last straw, I am signing up my 8 year old DD for football tomorrow!! She is hitting the weight room with me tomorrow and is going to end up being 6'2" 250 lb linebacker

Love it! OR you could say the heck with it and choose to bypass the college craziness. "I will be forgoing college ball and will be entering the PGF draft." They do it in baseball right? Wait, there may be a small financial difference.....

 

[Eric F]

6 days to go...Coach White still isn't answering his phone...C'mon, Mike! Don't play me like that!!

 

[_MIA_]

Love it! OR you could say the heck with it and choose to bypass the college craziness. "I will be forgoing college ball and will be entering the PGF draft." They do it in baseball right? Wait, there may be a small financial difference.....

If her 4'9" 65 lb 8 year old body isn't benching 225 for at least 20 reps by next week that will be my next step.