Turning the Barrel

[ArmWhip]

So the sidearm throw motion is already being altered by the bottom hand as the back elbow slots.

Exactly my point, you don't use a sidearm throwing motion once you launch the bat, if you did you would have to roll the wrists so that the palm faced forward and not up at contact.

 

[Wellphyt]

Exactly my point, you don't use a sidearm throwing motion once you launch the bat, if you did you would have to roll the wrists so that the palm faced forward and not up at contact.

In the sidearm throw, what is the path of the "throwing hand" when it begins to move forward?

In hitting what is the path of the "hands" after the hands turn the corner?

Here is a hint:
[video]http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j399/baseballgifs/Miggy_Hands.gif[/video]

Here is another hint:
"The baseball swing is a hard push-swing. You are pushing right through the impact area , about six to eight inches on a plane with the flight of the ball." -- Ted Williams

 

[RayR]

Awesome example of how turning the barrel creates lag.....save this clip to your computer - play in quicktime and scroll frame by frame....watch the back arm - watch how the barrel tightens - watch the back wrist action....

 

[Wellphyt]

Awesome example of how turning the barrel creates lag.....save this clip to your computer - play in quicktime and scroll frame by frame....watch the back arm - watch how the barrel tightens - watch the back wrist action....

Right. And make sure to watch how the pinch between the bicep and forearm of the back arm begins to release as the hands turn the corner. That part of the swing is what Williams described as a "hard push". The shoulder rotation is covering up the path of the hands, which are moving in a straight line. Epstein describes this same movement in his drills as "the hands working out in front of the body".

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Right. And make sure to watch how the pinch between the bicep and forearm of the back arm begins to release as the hands turn the corner. That part of the swing is what Williams described as a "hard push". The shoulder rotation is covering up the path of the hands, which are moving in a straight line. Epstein describes this same movement in his drills as "the hands working out in front of the body".

Which is why some describe the swing as creating a rotational corner wrt their rear hip and having a linear throw.

 

[RayR]

IMO the pinch is a result....trying to form a pinch will create choas...its like maintaining the hinge angle....

Right. And make sure to watch how the pinch between the bicep and forearm of the back arm begins to release as the hands turn the corner. That part of the swing is what Williams described as a "hard push". The shoulder rotation is covering up the path of the hands, which are moving in a straight line. Epstein describes this same movement in his drills as "the hands working out in front of the body".

 

[eddie35]

Can you please explain what is the deep whoosh?

 

[RayR]

Eddie the concept of the deep whoosh may be defined differently by different people....I use the Nike swoosh as a model of the tip of the barrel's path...the arc is behind you...

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Eddie the concept of the deep whoosh may be defined differently by different people....I use the Nike swoosh as a model of the tip of the barrel's path...the arc is behind you...

Rotated it 10-degrees ......

 

[wannahit]

after cabrera turns the barrel and his shoulders are rotating to at least perpendicular to the plate before he makes contact with the ball, do you consider the front shoulder and arm "connected", if not, at what point do feel he becomes disconnected.