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DD has gone through a growth spirt where she is now about 5'8" with very long arms and she is 14. Between growing and working on velocity, her speed has improved. She is now having trouble with the dropball not dropping. She has good spin and the correct rotation. I'm thinking it's because her release point is off, not sure. What are some ways to work on this?
 
Jun 18, 2012
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DD has gone through a growth spirt where she is now about 5'8" with very long arms and she is 14. Between growing and working on velocity, her speed has improved. She is now having trouble with the dropball not dropping. She has good spin and the correct rotation. I'm thinking it's because her release point is off, not sure. What are some ways to work on this?

I guess I'm confused... "She's now having trouble with the dropball not dropping. ... She has good spin and the correct rotation." How would it not be dropping. Remember, correct dropball spin is forward spin. Given all pitches drop from original trajectory, assume same velocity, any pitch with "good" forward spin rotation will drop more than without "good" forward spin.

Of course, there's also the release point. The nice thing about having a riseball is that it's a low/long-arm release point relative to a good peel drop.

A clip would help.
 
Nov 7, 2014
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have her throw the drop at 45 or 47 feet see if it is dropping at that distance then if it is adjust her release angle with her upper body might have to much rearward tilt in her spline. as speed increases gravity has less time as the speed and release angle can help to overcome the spin and gravity...
 
Jun 18, 2012
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have her throw the drop at 45 or 47 feet see if it is dropping at that distance then if it is adjust her release angle with her upper body might have to much rearward tilt in her spline. as speed increases gravity has less time as the speed and release angle can help to overcome the spin and gravity...

Yes... I think a main problem with getting a nice "dropball" is having too much tilt back at release. I'm thinking I want the pitcher to be approaching vertical at release (very tall) with a dropball pitch. To do this, I believe they are exploding out (drive) just like with any pitch, but must get less tilt with the dropball than with the riseball.
 
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stride should be the same for all pitches. Pitching from a longer distance doesn't make sense to me. If the ball has correct spin axis then her spin rate is too low or her release angle is too high. Try letting her get a little
More weight over the front foot at release.
 
Nov 7, 2014
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the longer distance is just away to see it from a better prospective not to fix it....

and by dropping at that distance I mean breaking down not falling because its running out of gas...
 
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Nov 7, 2014
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Yes... I think a main problem with getting a nice "dropball" is having too much tilt back at release. I'm thinking I want the pitcher to be approaching vertical at release (very tall) with a dropball pitch. To do this, I believe they are exploding out (drive) just like with any pitch, but not striding out as far as with the riseball.

Yes I believe they must also be at vertical at release unless you are throwing it as a compliment for a rise and throw the high in the zone drop ball. But I believe his DD's longer arms and increased speed has just caused it to break later needs release angle adjustment.
 
Jun 18, 2012
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Rick Pauly said, "Best not to vary the stride length based on the type of pitch being thrown. I think it is a common misconception that a dropball stride length should be shorter---I see kids that have been taught this. They typically have slower speeds and a slower break on the movement (less RPS on the ball). Stride length should be virtually identical for all pitches."

http://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-pitching/405-stride.html#post3338
 
Jun 18, 2012
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Rick Pauly: "The elites land almost exactly the same length regardless of pitch-----they change their body (spine) angle by "hinging" at the waist line. The hinging action allows the upper body/spine get to a near vertical position at time of release for the drop ball------note that the landing leg is not at that same angle as the upper body; it is still bracing at a significant angle to stop all linear movement by the lower half of the body and provide 'front side resistance'."

http://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-pitching/405-stride-2.html#post3360
 

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