Working on correct spin

Found the video of the catcher's view.

the thread where I got it from is title "What do I mean". Not sure how to link it yet.

Here's the link to the thread - http://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-pitching/17133-what-do-i-mean.html

Yeah, I'm getting better at moving things around.

CoachScott said:

I understand bullet spin. I don't understand 12-6 angled towards RH batter.

@BoardMember - I refer to that spin as bullet.

Humpty, BoardMember has a nice gif of him throwing a striped ball with what I would call a 2 to 8 spin on it (Pitchers view) I believe he may also have the catchers view of it alo (10 to 4). I see he is already posting here. Hopefully he'll pop those gifs up for you. Unless someone else beats him to it. He posted them in a previous thread. (I really need to keep track of these threads better, especially BoardMembers gifs.)

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Well describe the spins boardmember has pics of.

BoardMember said:

Describe these catchers view rotations:

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#1 is indeed 6-12 rotation with the horizontal axis turned toward the batter. This would be best described as an "Inside Drop".....Not to be confused with an "Inshoot" or "Cut" Drop..........Which is actually #2!

#1 will break DOWN......Not In........Because pressure differentials are on the top and bottom of the ball at 6/12. But because it is thrown toward/just off the inside corner, WITHOUT stepping TOWARD the batter and telegraphing the direction of the pitch, it will have a "natural" horizontal axis toward the inside corner but the vertical axis remaining level to the ground. It is also, as FFS points out......The most "natural" I/R rotation when thrown correctly.......

#2 will break IN and Down.......Because the pressure differentials are on the top right and bottom left of the ball at 8/2, as the horizontal AND vertical axis is rotated. As a result this pitch will "run in and down" to a RHB.........

#3 is of course "bullet spin"..........With the axis pointed toward the target. This ball will "drift" slightly, but is basically a straight ball that does not drop as much because of the stablizing effects caused by spiral rotation.....Same as a bullet from a gun, or foot ball spiral...........It is NOT a riseball. But is IS a pitch that will drop less then any ball that has it's rotational axis "less then parallel" to the vector/direction of travel and is spinning "forward"........

Well describe the spins boardmember has pics of.

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I only see one. Did he post more than one? I'm at work maybe I didn't see all the spins. Must have been stripped from the firewall here. I get some vids and gifs but not all. That's why I only posted what I saw.

Yep 3 gears. 3 different spins.

Well that explains it then. I only see one.

Wonder why I only get one? I'm assuming they were all created the same. Hmm mystery. Or maybe I shouldn't do this at work, lol. Nah, need something to do over lunch on cold days here in PA.

CoachScott said:

Found the video of the catcher's view.

the thread where I got it from is title "What do I mean". Not sure how to link it yet.

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Boardmember, Althought the axis of your pitch is near horizontal to the ground, seem the ball is turned more than the #1 gear, kinda more toward bullet spin, but not bullet spin. Explanation?

Doug Romrell said:

Boardmember, Althought the axis of your pitch is near horizontal to the ground, seem the ball is turned more than the #1 gear, kinda more toward bullet spin, but not bullet spin. Explanation?

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Might be camera angle because I'm throwing at the camera from an angle.........

Same pitch, rear view..........See the line the entire way.......



Front view........

BoardMember said:

Might be camera angle because I'm throwing at the camera from an angle.........

Same pitch, rear view..........See the line the entire way.......

Front view........

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THAT'S IT! Now, maybe I should start another thread to have you describe how to throw #2