Omg, this helps so much more! DH can look at her swing and tell what all she does wrong. I look at her swing and know that something isn't right, but I can't ever pin point what it is because I honestly don't know how it should look.
Y'all want to dissect this swing?
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Omg, this helps so much more! DH can look at her swing and tell what all she does wrong. I look at her swing and know that something isn't right, but I can't ever pin point what it is because I honestly don't know how it should look.
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Thanks the sequence I'm using is
1. Relax and ready in box
2. Farthest point weight back
3. Front foot heel plant
4. Hip release elbow slot
5. Just prior to contact ball maybe less than 10 ft away
6. Contact
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There is not much follow through because she is all the way forward and basically half followed through already. Contact is also way out front look at hand position relative to body in other words she is making contact when her bat should be following through staying back will help.
That makes total sense!
This hitter, like most young ones, is doing most everything just a little bit wrong. And then it all adds up to a not-great swing. Her grip is wrong. Her stance is unengaged. Her posture is off both at start and at load (does she look like Lauren Chamberlain at key positions in her swing? No? She can, it's not an age thing, it's a movement thing). She has no coil. No pullback. Does't know how to use her hands. If you asked her what it meant to swing a bat and what body parts she's trying to use (how she visualizes and understands "swing"), you'd probably get a not great answer. If you asked her how she thinks the barrel should look at contact she'd probably say flat vs. diagonal. She likely won't have a good idea of proper contact position. She wouldn't understand lag. She's probably been told 100 times (likely yelled from the stands) "don't drop your shoulder" "hands to the ball" "make contact" "keep that swing level".
And then we wonder why her full-motion swing isn't quite right?
I'm NOT trying to be mean or harsh. But you have to start fixing each piece -- piece by piece. Give her the reason for each fix. "Our hands have to work like this, so the grip needs to be like this, out in the fingers and out of the palm (that's where I'd start). Here's the wrong way. Here's the right way. Feel the difference?" Etc. etc. See the results add up. Over time. Good on tee. Bad on soft-toss. Good on soft-toss. Bad vs. machine or live pitching. Fix what's wrong or sub-optimal again. Repeat forever
And then we wonder why her full-motion swing isn't quite right?
I'm NOT trying to be mean or harsh. But you have to start fixing each piece -- piece by piece. Give her the reason for each fix. "Our hands have to work like this, so the grip needs to be like this, out in the fingers and out of the palm (that's where I'd start). Here's the wrong way. Here's the right way. Feel the difference?" Etc. etc. See the results add up. Over time. Good on tee. Bad on soft-toss. Good on soft-toss. Bad vs. machine or live pitching. Fix what's wrong or sub-optimal again. Repeat forever
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This hitter, like most young ones, is doing most everything just a little bit wrong. And then it all adds up to a not-great swing. Her grip is wrong. Her stance is unengaged. Her posture is off both at start and at load (does she look like Lauren Chamberlain at key positions in her swing? No? She can, it's not an age thing, it's a movement thing). She has no coil. No pullback. Does't know how to use her hands. If you asked her what it meant to swing a bat and what body parts she's trying to use (how she visualizes and understands "swing"), you'd probably get a not great answer. If you asked her how she thinks the barrel should look at contact she'd probably say flat vs. diagonal. She likely won't have a good idea of proper contact position. She wouldn't understand lag. She's probably been told 100 times (likely yelled from the stands) "don't drop your shoulder" "hands to the ball" "make contact" "keep that swing level".
And then we wonder why her full-motion swing isn't quite right?
I'm NOT trying to be mean or harsh. But you have to start fixing each piece -- piece by piece. Give her the reason for each fix. "Our hands have to work like this, so the grip needs to be like this, out in the fingers and out of the palm (that's where I'd start). Here's the wrong way. Here's the right way. Feel the difference?" Etc. etc. See the results add up. Over time. Good on tee. Bad on soft-toss. Good on soft-toss. Bad vs. machine or live pitching. Fix what's wrong or sub-optimal again. Repeat forever
^^^Agreed...she is very typical for a younger player. Just remember this is a marathon not a sprint...start with one or two things and take it a step at a time, she can be taught the whole swing at once but she should only focus on one thing at a time. the last thing you want her to do is be at the plate thinking through the 8 point or 10 points of the swing...that is the muscle memory part your DH is talking about. Also even though she is young don't be afraid to show her pictures of herself vs model and then put her in those positions so she can FEEL the difference.
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Agreed. I am very curious as to why this is e.g. what is it about their bodies that when left alone many resort to this type of swing? Strength? Coordination? First introduction
to hitting being on the tee (e.g. t-ball)? Probably no definitive answer, other than perhaps all of the above, but with a 2 year old son who will eventually play, if I can get him on the right track earlier than I did with
my DD it would be great.
Cray91,
Ok, if you do work with her, you can see the back elbow leading the hands in full speed. Look for it the next time you hit, just zero in on it since you can see it in the video. Then correct her every time she leads with the elbow. With just a little practice you can see this flaw.
With just a little practice you can also see flattening the barrel before swinging. It happens slow enough to see in real time.
Just burn the swing into your head and practice seeing it in real time. With a little practice you can see the slot and shift pattern and you want to create a sit and turn pattern.
Ok, if you do work with her, you can see the back elbow leading the hands in full speed. Look for it the next time you hit, just zero in on it since you can see it in the video. Then correct her every time she leads with the elbow. With just a little practice you can see this flaw.
With just a little practice you can also see flattening the barrel before swinging. It happens slow enough to see in real time.
Just burn the swing into your head and practice seeing it in real time. With a little practice you can see the slot and shift pattern and you want to create a sit and turn pattern.
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For visual this is the biggest part to work on. She does need better coil, separation etc and lots of other things; but stopping the hands drop/barrel dump/lay bat flat then dragging bat all the way around elbow first is huge.
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