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Turning the barrel 7

fanboi22

on the journey
Nov 9, 2015
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Bad visual of turning the barrel rearward. That visual is why I disagree with sending the barrel backwards, or TM's idea of snapping the barrel rearward.
What is your opinion of what the barrel should do? Any visuals would help. I am struggling to understand what some absolutes are when looking to achieve the high level swing for my DD. Thanks in advance.
 
Jan 6, 2009
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What is your opinion of what the barrel should do? Any visuals would help. I am struggling to understand what some absolutes are when looking to achieve the high level swing for my DD. Thanks in advance.
If my memory serves me correctly Rdbass says something like turn the barrel while going or to go forward, The bad visual is for the hands to remain back and snapping the barrel rearward with the hands still back. The bad visual also creates the lag position with the hands still back behind the rear shoulder,

Rdbass say it better then what I'm remembering.
 
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Feb 16, 2015
639
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South East
I fell into that trap with my DD, of TTB without any direction in mind. IMO the hands must have a direction in mind to allow TTB to be effective. Without the direction you just have an elevated case of DBSF. The barrel is just arches around the hands as direction is being fulfilled.

Edit to add: you must keep in mind contact locations. A lot of people will use images like FFS posted to demonstrate TTB because it is easy to see, which is an outside pitch... an inside pitch will look different.


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pattar

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If my memory serves me correctly Rdbass says something like turn the barrel while going or to go forward, The bad visual is for the hands to remain back and snapping the barrel rearward with the hands still back. The bad visual also creates the lag poaition with the hands still back behind the rear shoulder,

Rdbass say it better then what I'm remembering.
Turn it forward. That demonstration by SB ,as well as those by TM, are drills to exaggerate a certain feel which many amateurs are missing in their swings...
 
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I fell into that trap with my DD, of TTB without any direction in mind. IMO the hands must have a direction in mind to allow TTB to be effective. Without the direction you just have an elevated case of DBSF. The barrel is just arches around the hands as direction is being fulfilled.

Edit to add: you must keep in mind contact locations. A lot of people will use images like FFS posted to demonstrate TTB because it is easy to see, which is an outside pitch... an inside pitch will look different.
This is/was quite common in the early days of TTB, as the instruction was to turn it "rearward" which confused a lot of folks hearing/seeing it for the first time (myself included). This is because "rearward" was first "bonk the catcher on the head", then "rearward to the dugout behind you", and it was quite sometime before "turn it forward" or "turn it towards the ball" started making it a little easier to understand...even though we had clips like these....

...which because they were two-dimensional made it look like "rearward" was towards the catcher, instead of really the "forward" to the ball.

I used TTB "behind and through" the ball in the interim of the "rearward" to "forward" transition which worked...and still does today. In fact, I kind of stopped talking to my hitters about TTB initially, but rather talked about getting the barrel "behind and through" the ball, showed them the path, and then asked them to show me how that would accomplish that. Some actually should the TTB path to do it, while others needed a little more prompting, and that's when the words TTB were introduced.

Looking at the three clips above, I think the "behind and through" path is pretty easy to see even in the two-dimensional format given.
 
Feb 16, 2015
639
18
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This is/was quite common in the early days of TTB, as the instruction was to turn it "rearward" which confused a lot of folks hearing/seeing it for the first time (myself included). This is because "rearward" was first "bonk the catcher on the head", then "rearward to the dugout behind you", and it was quite sometime before "turn it forward" or "turn it towards the ball" started making it a little easier to understand...even though we had clips like these....

...which because they were two-dimensional made it look like "rearward" was towards the catcher, instead of really the "forward" to the ball.

I used TTB "behind and through" the ball in the interim of the "rearward" to "forward" transition which worked...and still does today. In fact, I kind of stopped talking to my hitters about TTB initially, but rather talked about getting the barrel "behind and through" the ball, showed them the path, and then asked them to show me how that would accomplish that. Some actually should the TTB path to do it, while others needed a little more prompting, and that's when the words TTB were introduced.

Looking at the three clips above, I think the "behind and through" path is pretty easy to see even in the two-dimensional format given.
Good post MB.... I also like the phrase get behind the ball and find myself saying only that to my DD, now that TTB is part of her DNA lol


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