The rule says a third strike that the catcher fails to catch.speaking of balls hitting the dirt first, if a batter swings at a ball in the dirt and it's the third strike, is the D3K rule still in effect? AC says it is and batter-runner could have gone to an open 1B as catcher did not make the catch. I thought I had read that ball in dirt nullifies the rule and it is an out.
Dont these contradict eachother?Here's your NFHS rule. 8.1.4.c
c. (F.P.) a pitched ball (not entirely in the batter's box) not swung at nor called a strike touches any part of the batter's person or clothing. It does not matter if the ball strikes the ground before hitting the batter. The batter's hands are not to be considered part of the bat. If no attempt is made to avoid being hit, the batter will not be awarded first base unless it is ball four.
However, the preceding rule 8.1.4.b does not clarify the bounce question.
b. (F.P.) a pitched ball is entirely within the batter’s box and it strikes the batter or her clothing. No attempt to avoid being hit by the pitch is required. However, the batter may not obviously try to get hit by the pitch.
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speaking of balls hitting the dirt first, if a batter swings at a ball in the dirt and it's the third strike, is the D3K rule still in effect? AC says it is and batter-runner could have gone to an open 1B as catcher did not make the catch. I thought I had read that ball in dirt nullifies the rule and it is an out.
Dont these contradict eachother?
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Dont these contradict eachother?
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Do ASA and USSSA also differentiate between "entirely in" and "not entirely within" the batter's box?
As of 2015 rule bookUSSSA does not (8.4.D). You can find how the rules is interpreted here: http://www.usssa.com/docs/2018/2018_FP_Intrepretations.pdf
I don't have an ASA book on me