Is Arm Swing Past the Hip an Absolute?

[jdavitsky]

Hi DFP'ers,

We are retooling DD to use I/R and are now beginning to work on the drive portion. My question is whether the initial arm swing in the backwards load an absolute? When I look at Ty Sofflet in an earlier post, he simply brings his hands into his body rather than a rear arm swing. DD used to swing her arm rearward, but we found she would over-twist causing other balance issues.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Jason

 

[coach james]

No, it's not.... However many will argue it aids rhythm, timing, and overlap, while others may say the no swing back hides the grip.... This is a style preference.
Don't be afraid to experiment with both and let her decide what she prefers. Keep in mind that the load or negative move is an absolute... swinging the ball hand back isn't.

 

[jdavitsky]

Thanks Coach...Since she doesnt yet drive well I am thinking we start with the arm swing to get the timing and overlap correct...otherwise it may make things more difficult

 

[grcsftbll]

My dd used to have the big backswing but I've noticed lately she hardly has one at all. From what I can tell it's really just what the pitcher is comfortable with.

 

[Mark H]

Late to the party here but do you folks changing your teaching methodology to "change" dd to IR check her slow motion video first to see if she figured it out unconsciously on her own in spite of what she was taught? Case in point, all MLB hitters have been taught stupid stuff about swinging a bat at some point in their life. Many of them will describe their swing much differently than what you would see them doing in slow motion video. And yet somehow, movement geniuses I susppose, they have a world class swing. To summarize, I'd double check what she is really doing in slomo video before I decided what to do with her training regimen.

My apologies if this has been covered and is already common consensus.

 

[quincy]

Big thing the last 5 years or so is the pitcher turning her back to the batter with no backswing at all.

And what James said.

 

[4 girl's dad]

Big thing the last 5 years or so is the pitcher turning her back to the batter with no backswing at all.

And what James said.

Hillhouse windup. Keep the ball in the glove, slight twist to the throwing arm side, then bring it forward. Daughter is doing this now and I also use it as I am learning too.

 

[jdavitsky]

Hillhouse windup. Keep the ball in the glove, slight twist to the throwing arm side, then bring it forward. Daughter is doing this now and I also use it as I am learning too.

Thats what DD is doing now but she over rotates throwing her entire balance off which she then has to compensate for. Yes we can correct that, but since we are trying to learn proper leg drive I believe that it will just over complicate the entire process. My though process is to go with the standard arm swing so that we can get proper overlap.

 

[Crystal Brown]

One of the big reason of why my daughter stop doing the arm swing was her over rotating as well. She has since learn how to do an arm swing, but have gotten used to the no swing style.
[video]https://youtu.be/uLNuj1uuTRU[/video]

 

[Crystal Brown]

Since my daughter prefer the no swing style, we are working on getting her to do this vs dropping her hand out of the glove. We are going with the cradle on the side vs what Amanda was showing out in front.
https://www.facebook.com/ThePackagedDeal/videos/1662116784045137/?pnref=story

The style is a choice, a load is a must. So if you going with a one arm swing, two arm swing, a cradle, just go approach. Whatever style you choose, it is only going be as effective as the load.