Average Speed for a 12U pitcher?? and Off season prep to get ready for Season,,,,

Silver 2200 said:

In what sense are you using the term BULLONEY? Are you calling me and the rest of the people liars in regards to saying we have seen 10u girls throw in the low to mid 50's?

If you want to see the catchers I guess your going to have to come to the midwest to see them . Who challenges people on internet to drive across the country to come to his facility and catch a 60 mph softball from 30 feet? Are you 12 years old?

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Silver, first, welcome to the site! I see you just joined in March and are brand new here. I hope you find many of the hidden gems that have been built here and it helps you, your DD, and others you know along the way. The folks on this site, or at least the majority, are here to help. If you have questions, you will find answers. You may get many different answers but it will help with your journey no doubt about it. This site is much more than your typical bulletin board site where anyone posts what they are thinking at that very moment because nobody knows who they are. It is full of respectable members of the softball community across the country and globe that have years and years of experience as well as those who have very little.
I share this with you as I have tried (never been perfect) to respect the opinions of others and most importantly the experience that others of had and shared.

I tell you this because I really hope this site will help you and you can find the pearls that MANY others have found. I have seen others come in over the years casting stones from the beginning and they are shut down quicker than you can imagine and will never regain the valuable resource DFP can be. Chrispots has been around the block a time or two and has plenty of knowledge to share. Please give him and others a shot before you call them out. They may know more than you think they do.

Best of luck!

S3

coachbubbles said:

Parents of girls that go to one specific pitching coach hate to see me behind the screen with my pocket radar and tend to disappear . They tell me that my cell phone looking radar can’t possibly be more accurate than his big clunky police style gun. I show them a picture with about 15 well known D1 coaches behind the screen at a showcase with pocket radars. Moat of these parents used to wanna talk pitching speed all the time now don’t want anything to do with it now.

As one poster mentioned earlier- only believe it if you see it firsthand on a reputable and calibrated radar. Speed is only part of the battle anyway unless you are Paige Lowary!

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I have definitely gotten some disgruntled looks. lol

CoachJD said:

Where do you have the rubber? 35 feet from home plate? Just trying to get an idea of what her leg drive is.

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Yes 35'

I have several of my 10U pitchers who get 6+ feet off the plate (legally)

chrispots said:

Yes 35'

I have several of my 10U pitchers who get 6+ feet off the plate (legally)

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^absolutely. Especially the tall ones that understand drive.

True story- 5 games into middle school as a 5th grader we went to a podunk school that striped baseball boxes, had a wood pitching plate and chalked a 6ft circle. Told coach DW that DD would be getting out of that thing. Sure enough she did in the first inning about the 3rd pitch and got called on it. DW approached the umpire and he said “man Ive never seen anything like that before at this age. Its illegal so I had to call it”. DW replied by whipping out the rule book and proving it was 2 feet short and demanded a rechalk if they were going to call it. They left the circle and forgot about it.

I will be the first to admit DD isn’t a freak athlete or have a pedigree that makes her D1 material. Like others her age she works incredibly hard at her craft. 50*....They are out there, just got to get around. But can they pitch or are they a thrower?

chrispots said:

Yes 35'

I have several of my 10U pitchers who get 6+ feet off the plate (legally)

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I believe it. 6 feet doesn't seem too unrealistic (still impressive) if they're doing everything correctly.

Just a note for speed at 12u, DD was down for the 12u ASA all american games in OK city this past fall, and there were 6-7 girls that threw over 60, and the top pitch on radar was 64mph.

coachbubbles said:

^absolutely. Especially the tall ones that understand drive.

True story- 5 games into middle school as a 5th grader we went to a podunk school that striped baseball boxes, had a wood pitching plate and chalked a 6ft circle. Told coach DW that DD would be getting out of that thing. Sure enough she did in the first inning about the 3rd pitch and got called on it. DW approached the umpire and he said “man Ive never seen anything like that before at this age. Its illegal so I had to call it”. DW replied by whipping out the rule book and proving it was 2 feet short and demanded a rechalk if they were going to call it. They left the circle and forgot about it.

I will be the first to admit DD isn’t a freak athlete or have a pedigree that makes her D1 material. Like others her age she works incredibly hard at her craft. 50*....They are out there, just got to get around. But can they pitch or are they a thrower?

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Just curious as to what rule set they were playing. Unless something has changed in different rule sets the pitching circle is for the "look back" rule only. You can stride out of it when pitching.

Andy

AndyS said:

Just curious as to what rule set they were playing. Unless something has changed in different rule sets the pitching circle is for the "look back" rule only. You can stride out of it when pitching.

Andy

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Conference uses modified NFHS. Including 105 mins, railroad tracks in the circle, staying in the circle, both feet in contact with the rubber and no infield fly amongst a few others that slip my mind at the time. DW likens it to rec or some really weird select tournaments we have been to.

We have been to the all sanction Worlds in Columbus 3 years now. DD has thrown for those guns each year. First year it had her at right about what she consistently throws. 2 year the guns were way high as it recorded both of our pitchers, and other pitchers I am very familiar with, at about 6 or 7 miles above what they throw. Last year they were about 5 miles higher than normal.

Get one of those guns and have radar Grandpa at the trigger and pretty soon you’ll see some upper 80’s