Batsics1.... I do like your 4 pitch concept, trying to manipulate the batter using teh previous pitch and not over-complicating the thought process........ my issue is I am very analytical..... always trying to plan out what the result should be and if it isn't, what I should have done differently.
I also understand and AGREE with your thought, same as Hal's for wanting your pitcher to have the utmost confidence in herslf to get a K on any batter.
** I'm probably more cautious with some batters then I need to be and don't tend to challenge them as much as I try and get them to go after pitches that I feel she can't extend her arms on or turn on. I like low-IN, High-in, low-away, and only waist-high pitches I like are are inside change ups........ I like low and away changeups, but try to be careful not to be predictable....
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CoachFP suggests similar as you.. not to over-complicate it (over-thinking).... He's probably right, thus it would save from wasting some pitches.......
for clarity, when I say a plan for 2-3 pitches, thats not EVERY batter, generally thats when we are in the dugout before an inning or at the mound when I need to break momentum or give us calm confidence for how we get out of an inning. Sometimes we do get the results per pitch we want, at least for 1-2, MAYBE 3 pitches, sometimes she misses her spot or the batter reacts differently and we adjust. I think of it as a Chess match.. think ahead 1-2 pitches and plays... if this happens, we'll do this, if that happens, we'll do that.....
............ There are times when wasting pitches has a purpose........ we may be working on a pitch that the pitcher is not consistant with yet, another situation may be if the situation is right, I may throw something off the plate in location different then where I want to later to that same batter-similar count (when I don't NEED the pitch for an out on THAT pitch). later in the game with that batter, if a similar situation comes up again, I can throw something different that the other team / batter is not expecting.... (method to avoid tendancies and to not be predictable, but that does cause wasted pitches and I am ok with that because its setting up a situation later.
again, maybe its overthinking and as you and CoachFP suggest - don't over-complicate it
I appreciate the discussion.... I'll have to get a cold beer next time! (these are discussions I like over beer and BBQ!)
I also understand and AGREE with your thought, same as Hal's for wanting your pitcher to have the utmost confidence in herslf to get a K on any batter.
** I'm probably more cautious with some batters then I need to be and don't tend to challenge them as much as I try and get them to go after pitches that I feel she can't extend her arms on or turn on. I like low-IN, High-in, low-away, and only waist-high pitches I like are are inside change ups........ I like low and away changeups, but try to be careful not to be predictable....
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CoachFP suggests similar as you.. not to over-complicate it (over-thinking).... He's probably right, thus it would save from wasting some pitches.......
for clarity, when I say a plan for 2-3 pitches, thats not EVERY batter, generally thats when we are in the dugout before an inning or at the mound when I need to break momentum or give us calm confidence for how we get out of an inning. Sometimes we do get the results per pitch we want, at least for 1-2, MAYBE 3 pitches, sometimes she misses her spot or the batter reacts differently and we adjust. I think of it as a Chess match.. think ahead 1-2 pitches and plays... if this happens, we'll do this, if that happens, we'll do that.....
............ There are times when wasting pitches has a purpose........ we may be working on a pitch that the pitcher is not consistant with yet, another situation may be if the situation is right, I may throw something off the plate in location different then where I want to later to that same batter-similar count (when I don't NEED the pitch for an out on THAT pitch). later in the game with that batter, if a similar situation comes up again, I can throw something different that the other team / batter is not expecting.... (method to avoid tendancies and to not be predictable, but that does cause wasted pitches and I am ok with that because its setting up a situation later.
again, maybe its overthinking and as you and CoachFP suggest - don't over-complicate it
I appreciate the discussion.... I'll have to get a cold beer next time! (these are discussions I like over beer and BBQ!)