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she has far more good than bad. Get her posture more upright and get her to brush (simple K drills with a sole focus on bruhing are really effective). And then take it from there. I would make this an ironclad rule and if she throws a leaning/clearing pitch from full motion then back to the Ks. it is that important. Within a couple of weeks she should be brushing pretty good.
Anyone who doubts the importance should be forced to watch Ally Carda's final game in this year's WCWS. It is scared straight for non brushers.
Posture pun intended
she has far more good than bad. Get her posture more upright and get her to brush (simple K drills with a sole focus on bruhing are really effective). And then take it from there. I would make this an ironclad rule and if she throws a leaning/clearing pitch from full motion then back to the Ks. it is that important. Within a couple of weeks she should be brushing pretty good.
Anyone who doubts the importance should be forced to watch Ally Carda's final game in this year's WCWS. It is scared straight for non brushers.
Posture pun intended
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To get her posture more upright, just look at the Amanda Scarborough clip in this thread. Get her to squat, like sitting down with back straight and once there, tuck her tailbone in and under. Have her stride and pitch from this position. This will get her upright. Watch Scarborough's red belt in the clip and watch how she thrusts her pelvis under and forward toward home plate. This is how pitcher's maintain the upright posture while being able to rotate the back leg through and create space for the whip to come through. Watch also Scarborough's right leg rotate inwards as it moves forward ahead of the whip to transfer momentum and maintain the space for the whip. No butt sticking out at all this way- can't be done. Also should clear up the "not dragging cuz on asphalt issue" Hope this helps, I know it's hard to digest and understand, I just recently began to notice it and use it as a tool. Feels weird but definitely clears up bending over and not getting back leg through.
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Goosedad, Could you explain with some more detail? Not challenging you here... just genuinely interested in you explaining:
1) how starting bent over and squated will help her posture? Are you saying to go up... and then out?
2) how can you tuck your tailbone in and under... sorta confused on that one...?
BT,
If I may recommend...
1) your dd needs to learn to suck the rear leg in. She's pinning it back. The torso is of much greater mass than her legs... and if they are stuck behind, the torso wil continue to fly forward. Try gathering the pelvis and rear leg inward toward her center of gravity by contracting the large moving muscles of the that connect to her pelvis... like the glutes.
2) your dd needs to learn to accelerate her hand passed her elbow. As Nick pointed out, she's long-arming the ball, releasing off the front leg. The upper arm decelerates BECAUSE the lower arm/hand accelerates... effectively sucking the energy out of the arm (from the elbow up).
3) posture requires that your body be 'stacked' at release... meaning the throwing side is aligned. Relax the throwing knee and get the thigh in-line with the torso. The knee, hip, and shoulder should be 'stacked'.
All,
What is the Tincher Method? Is it a secret?
1) how starting bent over and squated will help her posture? Are you saying to go up... and then out?
2) how can you tuck your tailbone in and under... sorta confused on that one...?
BT,
If I may recommend...
1) your dd needs to learn to suck the rear leg in. She's pinning it back. The torso is of much greater mass than her legs... and if they are stuck behind, the torso wil continue to fly forward. Try gathering the pelvis and rear leg inward toward her center of gravity by contracting the large moving muscles of the that connect to her pelvis... like the glutes.
2) your dd needs to learn to accelerate her hand passed her elbow. As Nick pointed out, she's long-arming the ball, releasing off the front leg. The upper arm decelerates BECAUSE the lower arm/hand accelerates... effectively sucking the energy out of the arm (from the elbow up).
3) posture requires that your body be 'stacked' at release... meaning the throwing side is aligned. Relax the throwing knee and get the thigh in-line with the torso. The knee, hip, and shoulder should be 'stacked'.
All,
What is the Tincher Method? Is it a secret?
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Ha! Thanks Java. Yeah left out start from the K-position - sideways to the catcher. Try it like this.
1. Stand sideways to the catcher.
2. Keeping back straight, squat like you are sitting down, not a deep squat, just enough like you are going to sit in a chair.
3. Let the ball swing back easily, ball up just like a k-drill
4. Stride out while maintaining the back straight and squat position, just like k-drill
5. Begin to throw the ball
6. When landing on stride leg firm it up. It is slightly bent because of the squat position, so it is active not stiff.
7. When stride leg lands, let the back leg through by letting the thigh rotate inwardly.
8. Whip the ball through.
The idea is to keep the back straight, therefore posture upright, by keeping the pelvis behind the knees (from a side on perspective) instead of on top of or directly above the knees. Like you suggest, I am trying to activate legs, glutes and core separately from the head, arms and shoulders, by activating them with the chair type squat. This helps get the feeling of using the legs and shows how to clear the back hip without bending over and putting the butt back. By squating, with no torso bend forward, you create a barrel to get your arm through as soon as you tuck the back leg dd ( image of barrel would be in lap with open end toward catcher and second base. So, not a deep squat. Just standing sideways, bending knees out in front of you and slightly sit back. Then do k-drill this way. This all keeps the torso and head over the center of gravity. There is no standing up as you keep your legs bent with weight of your torso in them. With your butt under you, and back straight, there is no way to lean, and the back leg is much easier to get through with the left leg active.
Let me know if I got to try again. This is what I tried, because, all high level pitchers have the back straight posture which is maintained throughout the pitch ( after the push-off). So, I start in that position and maintain it.
1. Stand sideways to the catcher.
2. Keeping back straight, squat like you are sitting down, not a deep squat, just enough like you are going to sit in a chair.
3. Let the ball swing back easily, ball up just like a k-drill
4. Stride out while maintaining the back straight and squat position, just like k-drill
5. Begin to throw the ball
6. When landing on stride leg firm it up. It is slightly bent because of the squat position, so it is active not stiff.
7. When stride leg lands, let the back leg through by letting the thigh rotate inwardly.
8. Whip the ball through.
The idea is to keep the back straight, therefore posture upright, by keeping the pelvis behind the knees (from a side on perspective) instead of on top of or directly above the knees. Like you suggest, I am trying to activate legs, glutes and core separately from the head, arms and shoulders, by activating them with the chair type squat. This helps get the feeling of using the legs and shows how to clear the back hip without bending over and putting the butt back. By squating, with no torso bend forward, you create a barrel to get your arm through as soon as you tuck the back leg dd ( image of barrel would be in lap with open end toward catcher and second base. So, not a deep squat. Just standing sideways, bending knees out in front of you and slightly sit back. Then do k-drill this way. This all keeps the torso and head over the center of gravity. There is no standing up as you keep your legs bent with weight of your torso in them. With your butt under you, and back straight, there is no way to lean, and the back leg is much easier to get through with the left leg active.
Let me know if I got to try again. This is what I tried, because, all high level pitchers have the back straight posture which is maintained throughout the pitch ( after the push-off). So, I start in that position and maintain it.
Maybe my reading comprehension is'nt what it should be but I'm having a hard time figuring this one out. Anybody like the idea of temporarily using a balance beam to get started in the right direction in getting better balance and posture?
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well a pictures worth a thousand words. Could some one tell me how to get a video clip on here?
- Dec 16, 2010
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What is the Tincher Method? Is it a secret?
While since mid-2011, my dds (and I) have seen Denny Tincher ~25 times, both in group and individual lessons, I don't know exactly what the Tincher Method is.
In individual lessons, Denny has never tried to change the I/R and javasource-inspired drive mechanics I have attempted to incorporate in to my dd's (mostly my youngest dd) pitching. In a one-on-one setting, Denny has made 4 improvements to my dd's mechanics (1 for older, 3 for younger) that improved her pitching immediately. But these observations were individual, not the kind of things that are emphasized in group lessons involving Tincher Certified Instructors.
So I think of Denny Tincher as a great individual pitching instructor who has spent way more than 10,000 hours thinking hard about how to help a kid pitch better. I don't know if he has been successful in packaging his knowledge in a way that can reliably dispensed by his Certified Instructors.
His youngest daughter, Abby (Angela's younger sister) did the recruiting video below. I would expect her technique to be representative of the current "Tincher Method".
https://video.search.yahoo.com/vide...g&sigi=11vkhmuvu&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004
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This is the squat I am describing. Do the k-drill like this and don't stand upright. Use the legs.
here is the squat I'm describing.
here is the squat I'm describing.
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