is it truely a 1-7 spin or is more of a ...

[javasource]

Nice looking gif pc! Vibrant colors, for sure... nice.

1-7 would be out breaking... when viewed from the pitcher...

 

[GunnerShotgun]

It looks like that ball is taped across two seams, not 4.

I have been following this thread but it's not clear to me why we are taping it across two seams? Are we trying to throw a two seam that cuts in?

My DD's fastball looks like Javas but she is throwing four seams. It has never cut in but has dropped occasionally, less so now that she is older.

Sometimes when we long toss I can always tell when she doesn't throw it 1-7 as the ball breaks down and away. The cue to fix is to lead with the pinky.

Hope that helps, or not?

 

[BoardMember]

We're discussing the "scrop".......

 

[coachbob]

Here is the 1/7 2Seamer.... Breaking Baby !!! 2 planes

2 seam 1-7; That's DD's fastball, but it looks like this. What are you calling this pitch?

 

[Perfect Circle]

2 seam 1-7; That's DD's fastball, but it looks like this. What are you calling this pitch?

We call it "the Screw".... I guess it's a scrop ??? Here is me trying to get closer to see seams (tape)... I'm seeing 1/7 on all 4 2Seam pitches

That's a piece of reg. typing paper, not a plate... the top of my head comes to DD's sternum... so I'm saying all strikes

 

[Perfect Circle]

depends on the Ump...

I brought the Square up from the 4' line out in front of the paper

 

[deboy922]

Perfect Circle - Looking good! What are you sitting on? Thanks.

 

[javasource]

I think there's still quite a bit of confusion as to the axis we are talking about...

This is the scrop spin I'm trying to get:

It will spin like this.. when viewed from the pitcher's perspective:

It will spin like this... when viewed from the catcher's perspective:

It will NOT look like this from the catcher's perspective:

The last one is just 6-12 spin... it will only drop...

I don't care if it's 1, 2, 3, or 4-seam... the spin should take it DOWN & IN... not just the trajectory and gravity.

I finally found a use for a ball on a stick...

 

[javasource]

Here's a frame by frame of a 2-seam striped attempt... it's wobbly... but you'll see that the overwhelming majority of the frames are 1-7 CATCHER'S view... not 1-7 Pitcher's view:

The frames marked with a green dot are what I was after. Yellow was 12-6... and red was 11-5. Again... catcher's view here... not pitcher's view.

Edit:

Note... this tilted axis is not the same as the 12-6 tilted above:

 

[Perfect Circle]

Perfect Circle - Looking good! What are you sitting on? Thanks.

It's a milk crate. I'm down low + the top of my head is the top of the zone...for working on rise.

I also use a basketball. I got a 3.5 gallon bucket too. But here is my Cadillac @ Home