Ok. I think I finally caught up. So you start the DP in the field with the Flex also on defense and another player who is hitting but not playing defense?
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Ok. I think I finally caught up. So you start the DP in the field with the Flex also on defense and another player who is hitting but not playing defense?
Comp - where is the unreported substitution in that situation? Maybe in situation where coach forgets to tell ump Flex has left game and you are down to 9 in lineup?
If you are using the DP/Flex and the flex is not out on the field on defense some other player is playing in the flex's position. If the umpire has not been informed of the change it is an unreported substitution.
The flex can be on the bench, lineup goes down to 9, there are no substitutions.
Yes, not playing defense in that first inning.....but she may play defense the next....
You cant just drop to 9 players without informing the umpire. If you drop to 9 and the flex is on the bench, the DP is playing defense for the flex. It does essentially count as a sub for the flex and could be caught as such by the opposing team.
Comp - in my humble opinion, not sure how someone already in the game (DP) can be counted as a substitute? This is simply the flex leaving the game, no one is substituting for the flex.
Its not a sub for the DP, but it does count as one for the flex. The flex has left the game and must use a reentry to come back into the game. You cannot just flip back and forth between 10 and 9 players without informing the umpire. If the DP is playing defense for the flex, it must be reported to the umpire.
Look at this the other way around, if you were to bat the flex for the dp do you think you can do it without informing the umpire? It is the same if the dp is playing defense for the flex.
Look at this the other way around, if you were to bat the flex for the dp do you think you can do it without informing the umpire? It is the same if the dp is playing defense for the flex.
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We are on the same page here with informing the umpire since it is a line-up change......we're just using different terminology on what is happening with the flex - I'm not sure how the flex leaving the game and re-entering is considered a "substitution" in and of itself.....seems like it's simply a line-up change (from 10 to 9) with re-entry limitations for that individual player.
Although as I type this I wonder what rules would govern the penalty for not reporting the Flex re-entry? Would it be an illegal re-entry or an unreported substitution (different penalties) which is what I think you are saying Comp or something else I can't seem to find in the book? I'm not sure how it would be an unreported substitution since they are not subbing for anyone? Nor am I sure how it would be an illegal re-entry since she was put in the correct spot?
Although as I type this I wonder what rules would govern the penalty for not reporting the Flex re-entry? Would it be an illegal re-entry or an unreported substitution (different penalties) which is what I think you are saying Comp or something else I can't seem to find in the book? I'm not sure how it would be an unreported substitution since they are not subbing for anyone? Nor am I sure how it would be an illegal re-entry since she was put in the correct spot?
