Can we just get an accurate description of the freakin spin instead of the shapes of drinking tools and noodles? Maybe something that includes words like axis, pitch, yaw, etc?
Curve spin
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My DD hates when I get all sciency on her to explain why her ball moves, so I will do it here :0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-3jnOIJg4k
Here is a clip on the magnus affect on a baseball (3:22) and if you have a large smooth part of the ball spinning around that axis it will break toward the smooth side. So in the case of BM's corkscrew curve, if released correctly, will curve to the left even though the pitcher is under cutting or spinning the ball to the right.
Just make sure the axis is not going toward the catcher.
Here is a clip on the magnus affect on a baseball (3:22) and if you have a large smooth part of the ball spinning around that axis it will break toward the smooth side. So in the case of BM's corkscrew curve, if released correctly, will curve to the left even though the pitcher is under cutting or spinning the ball to the right.
Just make sure the axis is not going toward the catcher.
JJsqueeze
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But what you are describing is better thrown as a simple 2 seam fastball. Why throw it palm up at all? I think we need the creator to describe it or show a clip showing the spin.
Come on folks break out the iPhone's and post some clips. Here is what her's looks like after being mothballed for a few months. I think these are the first ones she's tried since she mothballed the practice of this pitch a few months back. Needs some work but she has the basic idea.
Come on folks break out the iPhone's and post some clips. Here is what her's looks like after being mothballed for a few months. I think these are the first ones she's tried since she mothballed the practice of this pitch a few months back. Needs some work but she has the basic idea.
So a "corkscrew" curve has the same spin of 2 seam FB? That is something I have seen up close and personal. Could not figure out how you would get a pitch with bullet spin to do anything more than drift an inch or two.
What a coincidence. See clip below just shot it during Sarah's warm up pregame last Saturday. Hopefully, you can see enough of the hand/finger release action and spin axis. Her curve has some rise lift to it.....remember that all balls are pulled down by gravity so in order to have a "flat" curve you actually will need some rise action on it......I think I have seen it referred to as "crise" spin. Hope this helps unmuddy some waters.
[video]https://youtu.be/2k45MChjkPA[/video]
Had it planned for 3 weeks to get video of 2 seam FB and rise. Drove 700 miles round trip to get niece settled at Chipola and meet Jake for some bullpen work. Had the camera and even bought a new tablet. She shows up with a stomach bug and spent all weekend paying homage to the porcelain god. Should have just driven a few miles to a local swamp and tried to film Sasquatch.
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Rise, How about you put your technical terms to this:
"football thrown forward but with the nose orientated slightly up and to the left of the linear direction of travel" for a RH'd pitcher.
Does that make it more clear?
Squeeze put up that tech video that explains about how are pressures exerted on the ball when axis are tilted to an orientation OTHER then true bullet spin. IMO, bullet spin should only be described as spin that is EXACTLY PERPENDICULAR to the direction of travel.
Think what would happen to a bullet if you could somehow travel next to a bullet and used your finger to tip the bullet nose slight up and to the left from the linear direction it was traveling.
how about we post boardmembers vid teaching the corkscrew curve
edited to add - didn't see that corlay posted the link earlier
edited to add - didn't see that corlay posted the link earlier
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JJsqueeze
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That clears up the axis nicely, thanks. What about seam orientation? For this pitch is the center of where the nose of the football would be the large bald spot in the horseshoe of the softball?
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IME, this is the spin and axis orientation on most curve balls thrown even at the highest levels (see Pauly video) and the pitch has good break on it (not just a slight "drift" as has been suggested). Pure sidespin (9-3) on a curveball is mostly a myth.
