Jennie Finch?Finch never gets open.-W
Jennie Finch?Finch never gets open.-W
BM, so what you are saying is it is OK to allow this to happen? Remember, most here are talking about young...unseasoned pitchers. Allowing them to flail that glove arm too far off the powerline is going to cause grief. It WILL pull the lead shouldder off the power line. Do some very good pitchers learn to compensate for it... sure they do. These success stories are a perfect example of good information in the hands of the wrong person being dangerous. Sound familiar? Why ignore something we all know is counter productive in the hopes they'll learn to compensate? Teach the right way from the beginning. Avoids a lot of corrective measure in the long run. I agree with most of the info you share...but IMHO, this is less than optimal advice if you're suggesting it's OK to let this slide in young pitchers. I don't mean to be rude, but to me it seems like your meter for proper mechanics starts and ends at whteher or not they are using the "IR" mechanics, as you refer to. This is only a micron of the overall mechanics that need to be learned. No disrespect intended, but it does get somewhat old for some of us that you only offer your opinion when attempting to belittle other posters advice/observations. I'm sure if someone wanted to challenge YOU, they could find a few pitchers that got away with a bowling type delivery that was quite succesful. Does that prove that your "I/R" methodology is BS? Just looking for a bit of humility from you in your posts....after all, you don't own rights to the top 100 pitchers of all time, as your arogance would suggest.Take this for what you pay for it.......But I couldn't give 2 hoots about "glove swiming" UNLESS you can prove a problem exists because of it, and is DIRECTLY related to it........
If I didn't know better I'd say these pitchers took swimming lessons! How did they ever get by?
Sometimes I think PC's AND especially DAD's read about or hear someone talk about stuff like this and it gives them something to "coach"............
FR,
Can you show an example of someone being pulled of a powerline by glove swimming? If anything, Id say a glove swim is the body's way of helping it stay balanced by compensating for other things. If we take that mechanism away without changing the thing it is compensating for, I'd bet that's when you start to fall to one side or lose power. Not saying a big swim is ideal, but you need to address why it's swimming, not just the swim.
Ken, I agree with you. With young pitchers, it's likely they lack the body control and core strength to remain well balanced without the "counter weight" of the glove arm flailing off to the side. If you let it continue and it is severe, you're allowing a bad habit to become just that. A habit. The glove arm motion in the vids BM posted aren't severe in my opinion and likely are not problematic. I just grabbed a random video from Utube to show what I believe to be a problem to the point it pulls the pitchers front shoulder off the powerline. If they do throw it over the plate, they did "Something" to compensate. This girls fastballs are almost all leaking left, where the shoulder is going.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfi-0dd5y0YFR,
Can you show an example of someone being pulled of a powerline by glove swimming? If anything, Id say a glove swim is the body's way of helping it stay balanced by compensating for other things. If we take that mechanism away without changing the thing it is compensating for, I'd bet that's when you start to fall to one side or lose power. Not saying a big swim is ideal, but you need to address why it's swimming, not just the swim.