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This is an article that was featured as a training article in the ASA's Fastpitch Delivery Newspaper.

i hope you find it useful.

Coach Hal Sneaky Softball Pitching | Unconventional Tactics to Dominate Hitters




PITCHER / BATTER SELF-DEFENSE DRILLS ã 1999,2001



Pitchers get hit by line drives and screaming one hoppers. Batters get hit by wild inside pitches. This is always a concern at every level of play.

The key to big improvements in these types of injuries does not lie in extending the pitching distances. It lies in improving the reaction time of the players.

Major improvements in reaction times, to self-defense situations, comes with experience. Experience in identifying and reacting to a self-defense situation can ONLY be accomplished by placing the student in the very same self-defense situation many times.

A 5 year old martial arts student can be trained to have very quick self-defense reactions to an attack, coming from a person, from as little as 2' away. They react quickly to the attack because they have had experience defending themselves in that exact same situation. They gained that experience by being placed in the exact same self-defense situation many times, by their instructor, at their practice sessions.

A batter and pitcher can also be trained to have very quick reactions to an attack, coming from a softball, from 35' to 46' away. However, batters and pitchers are seldom put in that EXACT same situation in their practice sessions. They do not have the experience dealing with the self-defense situation, therefore, they do not react well, they react too late or they do not react at all.

The pitcher is directly in line with the center of the playing field and is the closest fielder to the batter, therefore, they have the least amount of reaction time to a ball hit back at them.

When the ball is hit, at that instant, the pitcher is the ONLY infielder that is NOT in a down, set and ready defensive posture / stance. The other infielders are already in their defensive stance, down, set and ready.

The pitcher has just finished throwing the pitch and, at the moment the ball is hit, probably still has a little forward momentum / travel going on, is still a little off balance and is standing up. I think it is safe to say the pitcher has everything going against them as far as self-defense is concerned.

These are all contributing factors to pitchers being hit. Despite these things going against them, there is one simple fact that cannot be denied; If they had reacted in time, they would not have gotten hit or at least might have deflected the ball a little and not gotten hit so hard.

The key word here is REACT.

You train your infielders to react to a line drive or a fast one hopper. They don't have to decide what to do, they just react and defend themselves because they have been through that exact same situation hundreds of times at practice. Drilling your pitcher while she is in a down, set and ready position, like a 3rd baseman, is good and will surely help a little. However, this is NOT a realistic game situation for pitchers that will have to defend themselves at the very end of their pitch, an instant after delivering the pitch.

If you think moving the pitching distance back 5' will make a tremendous amount of difference for a pitcher/batter that does not react well now, it probably won't. The ones that get hit the hardest and hurt the worst are not the ones that did not have time to react, that is not the case. They are the players that failed to react AT ALL, in the amount of time they had!

If a coach thinks training their pitchers to defend themselves, like they were a 3rd baseman, is doing everything they can to help prevent injuries, they are sadly mistaken.

The overwhelming majority of the responsibility to keep our pitchers and batters safe falls onto the shoulders of the parents, coaches and instructors of softball players. This same responsibility is exactly where it has always been, before any pitching distance rule changes were made. We must change what the players do from a decision to a reaction.

TEACH THEM TO REACT AT PRACTICE AND THEY WILL REACT IN THE GAME!

Here are a few drills to help train your pitchers and batters in a more realistic self-defense game situation.

For pitchers;

1. Have them pitch to their catcher at practice. Stand just outside the batter's box and fire a woffle ball back at them with a tennis racquet, just as fast as a hit ball would be and at the same exact time it would be hit by the batter. Make it a random thing, just like the game. Don't fire one back with every pitch, make it a surprise attack just like the game. Chest, waist, knees and one-hoppers. Swing the racquet sidearm so the ball comes back from the same level as a hit ball would come.

2. Stand about ten feet in front and just to the side of the pitcher and throw a woofle ball back at them sidearm to duplicate the same thing. Again, make this random and throw to all areas of the body.

3. Set up a pitching machine just to the outside of the batter's box, one that can fire woffle balls. Do the exact same thing. Leave the lock downs loose for the left/right and up/down adjustments so you can fire them at their chest, waist, knees, one hoppers, etc.

4. This drill will not exactly duplicate the game situation but it is great for developing hand to eye coordination for pitchers that must defend themselves while they are still in motion.

Have your pitcher doing a back and forth jogging type of motion on a small single person trampoline.

Make sure they have at least some side-to-side motion. Fire the woffle balls at them as they are jogging and in motion. Make them defend themselves while they are moving, just like they will have to do in a real game situation. (This is also a great drill for ALL the infielders to help develop quick eyes and hands for defense AND self-defense.)

Have the pitcher throw to a strike zone on a concrete wall, from a much closer distance than their regulation distance. The ball will hit the wall and come back quickly. This can also help train them to get into the defensive position quickly. You will have to judge the distance from the wall by the return speed of the ball. Try and find the right distance that will closely simulate the speed of a returning line drive. Start off at nearly regulation distance and move up while trying to maintain the same pitching speed.

Now, for the batters, here is what I do to prepare them for wild inside pitches during the game.

When I pitch batting practice, I throw from a bucket of balls. The bucket is to my side, sitting on a chair.

Mixed in with the softballs are 2 softball sized woffle balls. When I grab another ball I secret it into my glove so the batter does not know what type of ball is coming. At random, I will pull out a woffle ball and intentionally throw RIGHT AT the batter. I make it a big surprise and I force them to react and deal with the self-defense situation. I place them in the exact same situation they will face in the game.

I do this as a test to make sure they react as taught and to make sure they react PERIOD. I also do it to give them experience dealing with a wild inside pitch.

To start this training for very young and beginning batters; Stand, or sit on a bucket, about 15 feet in front of them and pitch woffle balls to them overhand at about half the normal pitching speed. (Half the speed at half the distance equals roughly the same amount of time to react). Throw strikes, balls and throw right at them, mix these up constantly. Tell them to swing at strikes, do not swing at balls and react when they know the ball is coming at them. This will get them used to realizing they MUST quickly

identify and react to the self-defense situation.

As a side note on this subject; I have seen a good portion of young batters get hit because it seemed they could not decide what to do with their bat. I have also seen batters react fairly well and in time, however, the ball still hit the bat and then hit the batter in the face. My advice on this is simple, DROP THE BAT, LET GO OF IT, FORGET ABOUT IT! I would much rather have a bat drop on my foot than a 50mph ball in the face that has ricocheted off my bat.

Teaching/training the players to react is the ONLY answer for a big reduction in these types of injuries.

I urge every parent/coach/instructor to duplicate the exact same self-defense situations, in practice, that our players will encounter when it happens in their games.

Evaluate every player.

You might be very surprised at how poorly or how late some of your players react. You might get very worried to see how many of your players do not react AT ALL.

A trip to the ER takes all the fun out of the game. Let's keep the game safe AND fun!
 

halskinner

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Brining this back up again for all the glove slappers and their parents that think it will nev er happen to their kid.
 
Dec 20, 2012
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This is an article that was featured as a training article in the ASA's Fastpitch Delivery Newspaper.

i hope you find it useful.

Coach Hal Sneaky Softball Pitching | Unconventional Tactics to Dominate Hitters








PITCHER / BATTER SELF-DEFENSE DRILLS ã 1999,2001



Pitchers get hit by line drives and screaming one hoppers. Batters get hit by wild inside pitches. This is always a concern at every level of play.

The key to big improvements in these types of injuries does not lie in extending the pitching distances. It lies in improving the reaction time of the players.

Major improvements in reaction times, to self-defense situations, comes with experience. Experience in identifying and reacting to a self-defense situation can ONLY be accomplished by placing the student in the very same self-defense situation many times.

A 5 year old martial arts student can be trained to have very quick self-defense reactions to an attack, coming from a person, from as little as 2' away. They react quickly to the attack because they have had experience defending themselves in that exact same situation. They gained that experience by being placed in the exact same self-defense situation many times, by their instructor, at their practice sessions.

A batter and pitcher can also be trained to have very quick reactions to an attack, coming from a softball, from 35' to 46' away. However, batters and pitchers are seldom put in that EXACT same situation in their practice sessions. They do not have the experience dealing with the self-defense situation, therefore, they do not react well, they react too late or they do not react at all.

The pitcher is directly in line with the center of the playing field and is the closest fielder to the batter, therefore, they have the least amount of reaction time to a ball hit back at them.

When the ball is hit, at that instant, the pitcher is the ONLY infielder that is NOT in a down, set and ready defensive posture / stance. The other infielders are already in their defensive stance, down, set and ready.

The pitcher has just finished throwing the pitch and, at the moment the ball is hit, probably still has a little forward momentum / travel going on, is still a little off balance and is standing up. I think it is safe to say the pitcher has everything going against them as far as self-defense is concerned.

These are all contributing factors to pitchers being hit. Despite these things going against them, there is one simple fact that cannot be denied; If they had reacted in time, they would not have gotten hit or at least might have deflected the ball a little and not gotten hit so hard.

The key word here is REACT.

You train your infielders to react to a line drive or a fast one hopper. They don't have to decide what to do, they just react and defend themselves because they have been through that exact same situation hundreds of times at practice. Drilling your pitcher while she is in a down, set and ready position, like a 3rd baseman, is good and will surely help a little. However, this is NOT a realistic game situation for pitchers that will have to defend themselves at the very end of their pitch, an instant after delivering the pitch.

If you think moving the pitching distance back 5' will make a tremendous amount of difference for a pitcher/batter that does not react well now, it probably won't. The ones that get hit the hardest and hurt the worst are not the ones that did not have time to react, that is not the case. They are the players that failed to react AT ALL, in the amount of time they had!

If a coach thinks training their pitchers to defend themselves, like they were a 3rd baseman, is doing everything they can to help prevent injuries, they are sadly mistaken.

The overwhelming majority of the responsibility to keep our pitchers and batters safe falls onto the shoulders of the parents, coaches and instructors of softball players. This same responsibility is exactly where it has always been, before any pitching distance rule changes were made. We must change what the players do from a decision to a reaction.

TEACH THEM TO REACT AT PRACTICE AND THEY WILL REACT IN THE GAME!

Here are a few drills to help train your pitchers and batters in a more realistic self-defense game situation.

For pitchers;

1. Have them pitch to their catcher at practice. Stand just outside the batter's box and fire a woffle ball back at them with a tennis racquet, just as fast as a hit ball would be and at the same exact time it would be hit by the batter. Make it a random thing, just like the game. Don't fire one back with every pitch, make it a surprise attack just like the game. Chest, waist, knees and one-hoppers. Swing the racquet sidearm so the ball comes back from the same level as a hit ball would come.

2. Stand about ten feet in front and just to the side of the pitcher and throw a woofle ball back at them sidearm to duplicate the same thing. Again, make this random and throw to all areas of the body.

3. Set up a pitching machine just to the outside of the batter's box, one that can fire woffle balls. Do the exact same thing. Leave the lock downs loose for the left/right and up/down adjustments so you can fire them at their chest, waist, knees, one hoppers, etc.

4. This drill will not exactly duplicate the game situation but it is great for developing hand to eye coordination for pitchers that must defend themselves while they are still in motion.

Have your pitcher doing a back and forth jogging type of motion on a small single person trampoline.

Make sure they have at least some side-to-side motion. Fire the woffle balls at them as they are jogging and in motion. Make them defend themselves while they are moving, just like they will have to do in a real game situation. (This is also a great drill for ALL the infielders to help develop quick eyes and hands for defense AND self-defense.)

Have the pitcher throw to a strike zone on a concrete wall, from a much closer distance than their regulation distance. The ball will hit the wall and come back quickly. This can also help train them to get into the defensive position quickly. You will have to judge the distance from the wall by the return speed of the ball. Try and find the right distance that will closely simulate the speed of a returning line drive. Start off at nearly regulation distance and move up while trying to maintain the same pitching speed.

Now, for the batters, here is what I do to prepare them for wild inside pitches during the game.

When I pitch batting practice, I throw from a bucket of balls. The bucket is to my side, sitting on a chair.

Mixed in with the softballs are 2 softball sized woffle balls. When I grab another ball I secret it into my glove so the batter does not know what type of ball is coming. At random, I will pull out a woffle ball and intentionally throw RIGHT AT the batter. I make it a big surprise and I force them to react and deal with the self-defense situation. I place them in the exact same situation they will face in the game.

I do this as a test to make sure they react as taught and to make sure they react PERIOD. I also do it to give them experience dealing with a wild inside pitch.

To start this training for very young and beginning batters; Stand, or sit on a bucket, about 15 feet in front of them and pitch woffle balls to them overhand at about half the normal pitching speed. (Half the speed at half the distance equals roughly the same amount of time to react). Throw strikes, balls and throw right at them, mix these up constantly. Tell them to swing at strikes, do not swing at balls and react when they know the ball is coming at them. This will get them used to realizing they MUST quickly

identify and react to the self-defense situation.

As a side note on this subject; I have seen a good portion of young batters get hit because it seemed they could not decide what to do with their bat. I have also seen batters react fairly well and in time, however, the ball still hit the bat and then hit the batter in the face. My advice on this is simple, DROP THE BAT, LET GO OF IT, FORGET ABOUT IT! I would much rather have a bat drop on my foot than a 50mph ball in the face that has ricocheted off my bat.

Teaching/training the players to react is the ONLY answer for a big reduction in these types of injuries.

I urge every parent/coach/instructor to duplicate the exact same self-defense situations, in practice, that our players will encounter when it happens in their games.

Evaluate every player.

You might be very surprised at how poorly or how late some of your players react. You might get very worried to see how many of your players do not react AT ALL.

A trip to the ER takes all the fun out of the game. Let's keep the game safe AND fun!


No mention of glove slapping adding to the probability of being injured!
 

halskinner

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So all those bruised thighs I have seen at tournaments is what? A figment of my imagination?

Everyone has seen that at tournaments but you preach its OK to do it.

You ever seen an 18u batter get her face splattered all over her, the catcher and the ump? I have ands I will never forget.

Ever seen a 16u pitcher, a leg slapper, get a line drive in the face? I have. Sorry, I didnt get any of their names so I could give them to you.

I am told a few of your 'Elite' pitchers' use the forward dip, the motion that hasd been blamed on many spinal stress fractures of the lumbar spine. Sorry again but I did not get any of their names when I first heard about it in 2000. I speak out about things like that because I dont care who does or does not agree with it. If it hurts kids, I am against it and I will say it.

Keep teaching whatever you want. The drills in this article are suggestions to hopefully get parents and coaches to at least do SOMETHING to make the game a little safer.

Of course, if one of your pitchers slap and get nailed in the face, you will sleep just fine that night because an elite pitcher does it so thats good enough for you. Whatever you do, dont do everything you could.
 
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I will jump on this band wagon. Some times I think we can get lost in speed, grips and movement we forget about fielding the circle. I have rarely seen it brought up from pitching coaches or even at camps. Like I have said before the pitcher has a $300 dollar disadvantage. I also think on this one dont kill the messenger thread. It is as important as face masks and evo shields.
 
Oct 22, 2009
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I always work comebackers with my pitchers, I throw a nerf ball at them after they release the pitch. They always complain about this drill, stating, "But I wear I mask!". Sigh. So I then I tell them, if you don't care about being nailed by a hit ball at least care about making an out.
And my pitching parents always thank me about the defensive workouts, because they say the girls always do well in those situations in games. They don't like practicing it, but the training kicks in on the field.
 
Dec 20, 2012
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So all those bruised thighs I have seen at tournaments is what? A figment of my imagination?

Everyone has seen that at tournaments but you preach its OK to do it.

You ever seen an 18u batter get her face splattered all over her, the catcher and the ump? I have ands I will never forget.

Ever seen a 16u pitcher, a leg slapper, get a line drive in the face? I have. Sorry, I didnt get any of their names so I could give them to you.

I am told a few of your 'Elite' pitchers' use the forward dip, the motion that hasd been blamed on many spinal stress fractures of the lumbar spine. Sorry again but I did not get any of their names when I first heard about it in 2000. I speak out about things like that because I dont care who does or does not agree with it. If it hurts kids, I am against it and I will say it.

Keep teaching whatever you want. The drills in this article are suggestions to hopefully get parents and coaches to at least do SOMETHING to make the game a little safer.

Of course, if one of your pitchers slap and get nailed in the face, you will sleep just fine that night because an elite pitcher does it so thats good enough for you. Whatever you do, dont do everything you could.

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OK know it all, we can go there. This a picture of my daughter 1 1/2 years ago. 7 stitches and fractured jaw in 2 places! I don't attribute it to a glove slap. I put blame on hot bats that have 90 lb kids hitting 225 ft bombs (in the hands of kid that can go close to 275) and IDIOT HS coaches that want you to throw strikes to future D1 players! BUT THE BATS ARE NEVER ADDRESSED ARE THEY??? No, because everyone wants to see big hits! If you were SO, SO worried about the kids you would advocate fask masks for all infielders and the banning of composite bats! But you advocate a FREAKING BOOK that you wrote!!!! There are inherent risk to playing the game. You try to minimize the risk. But not all can be avoided, that is called an accident. And what in the world are you talking about my "Elite pitchers" in 2000??? Obviously you must think I'm somebody else? Just another case of you running your mouth without any idea of what you are talking about!!!
 
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I am told a few of your 'Elite' pitchers' use the forward dip, the motion that hasd been blamed on many spinal stress fractures of the lumbar spine. Sorry again but I did not get any of their names when I first heard about it in 2000. I speak out about things like that because I dont care who does or does not agree with it. If it hurts kids, I am against it and I will say it.

Bent fingered rise - YouTube

Hey there Hal, this one of your students, right? Glove slapper, bent half over, stepping way out, mechanics not so solid, on and on.... The kid looks like she could very good with some better instruction! You are pushing your book on here, that's all I can see.
 

halskinner

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The ones that do the forward dip were not my stuidents. I first heard of it, and of the Ortho doctors blaming it on that motion in 2000. As I said if your reading comprehension skills were up to the norm you would knowe that.

You cannot seem to understand things well and seem to get them very confused and strewn together. You are soiunding no different than another person on this board who is quite unstable and confused about a great many things.

Do you have anything you can offer a young player to help them get better? Or are you so enfatuated with me that you can only talk about me on this board.

You need some serious help.
 

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