For the umps on here what or how do you determine control of the ball. Yes this is a have to see it type question, just looking for what you look for. On DP balls I've seen calls where ball hits ground and runner out on force at 2nd ball dropped on transfer. I've seen them called dropped never had control so safe. Last night GB to SS throw pulls FB glove into basline. Have to be there part here. Ball arrives split second before runner into glove then ball is on ground. Ump calls out. I know this ump well and is good ump. After game I ask how that call was determined? He says as soon as ball was in glove and foot on bag runner out on force. OK I'm good with that but I mentioned dbl plays at first of post for a reason as I've seen many called safe that the ball spent more time in the glove tHan I witnessed last night and in those instances ump always says no control. Is there a difference you use in dbl plays vs simple force out at first that you look for? How do you determine control, time, what you see? No complaints on the call just questions.