So this weekend my team was playing in a tournament and I encountered a few things I've never had happen in 10+ years of coaching.
First. Early in the game there was a play at first in which my team hit the ball down 3rd base line and the girl made a great play and threw across the diamond. The throw was slightly short so the girl had to stretch for it and pulled her foot off the base. The outfield up, who was behind the shortstop called her out. I asked him for an appeal to the home plate ump, who had a better view, and he told me "No, you're not getting an appeal" I looked to the home ump, he said "Unless he asks for help, I can't do anything."
Second. Their player was running to 1st and ran through the base. She made a turn towards 2nd, stepped into the field of play and walked back towards 1st. My player tagged her because she made that step. I'm not sure if she thought about 2nd or not, but she clearly stepped into the field of play. Again, the ump is behind the shortstop, calls her safe and I asked for an appeal. Like the last time, he told me "No." I walked out and asked him if we could please get a second opinion from the home ump because he can see down the line. He told me "Not a chance" and walked away from me.
Third (and final). Their girl bunted down 1st baseline. As she broke down the line, she kicked the ball. She was clearly out of the box. The home ump called her out. The field ump jumped in and said "No, she was in the box, thats a foul ball, she goes back." I asked the plate ump "Isn't that your call, not his?" And he just shrugged.
After the game I tried to talk to both umps and was met with a ton of disrespect. I said "Twice, I asked for an appeal and twice you denied it, why would you do that?" He said "Because I didn't need help, I know I'm right" I was angry and made it clear, he then told me that I was "A terrible coach and needed to go home".
Basically, I'm just wondering if I'm totally wrong here and the field umps don't allow for appeals and regularly deny them. I've never encountered it, but I've only been doing travel ball a short time. I've never seen it in HS ball.
First. Early in the game there was a play at first in which my team hit the ball down 3rd base line and the girl made a great play and threw across the diamond. The throw was slightly short so the girl had to stretch for it and pulled her foot off the base. The outfield up, who was behind the shortstop called her out. I asked him for an appeal to the home plate ump, who had a better view, and he told me "No, you're not getting an appeal" I looked to the home ump, he said "Unless he asks for help, I can't do anything."
Second. Their player was running to 1st and ran through the base. She made a turn towards 2nd, stepped into the field of play and walked back towards 1st. My player tagged her because she made that step. I'm not sure if she thought about 2nd or not, but she clearly stepped into the field of play. Again, the ump is behind the shortstop, calls her safe and I asked for an appeal. Like the last time, he told me "No." I walked out and asked him if we could please get a second opinion from the home ump because he can see down the line. He told me "Not a chance" and walked away from me.
Third (and final). Their girl bunted down 1st baseline. As she broke down the line, she kicked the ball. She was clearly out of the box. The home ump called her out. The field ump jumped in and said "No, she was in the box, thats a foul ball, she goes back." I asked the plate ump "Isn't that your call, not his?" And he just shrugged.
After the game I tried to talk to both umps and was met with a ton of disrespect. I said "Twice, I asked for an appeal and twice you denied it, why would you do that?" He said "Because I didn't need help, I know I'm right" I was angry and made it clear, he then told me that I was "A terrible coach and needed to go home".
Basically, I'm just wondering if I'm totally wrong here and the field umps don't allow for appeals and regularly deny them. I've never encountered it, but I've only been doing travel ball a short time. I've never seen it in HS ball.