FiveFrameSwing
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Lateral tilt (aka lateral-side-bend) is indeed important. Hugely important. On this we agree.
Ferris wheel or merry go round?
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Lateral tilt (aka lateral-side-bend) is indeed important. Hugely important. On this we agree.
FiveFrameSwing
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Interesting description ... "tilted tornado".
Getting hitters friendly/comfortable with the torso becoming 'twisted' is important. Getting the swing to be initiated, in-part, due to the actions of the core, is important. It is helpful to have a short-swing ... i.e., a swing with the initial axis of rotation being the rear lower back.
Had a hitter earlier today that was uncomfortable with their torso becoming twisted. Kid was a 'level shouldered turner'. A lot of balls driven into the ground. Over the course of the lesson she became more comfortable with letting her core twist ... and the resulting line-drives helped serve as positive feedback.
FiveFrameSwing
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One thing I learned, was there is a "downward" action in the swing. The hands don't move downward, although the barrel can move downward and the rear elbow as the barrel gets turned in the initiation of the swing.
Cannonball
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I absolutely disagree.
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With what part? EH and RS are at polar opposites in terms of what they teach. Tilting over the plate and lateral tilt at the rear hip are not even in the same ball park. EH is front wrist rotation. RS is rear forearm/wrist rotation. EH is connection of the hands to the shoulders so the only way to bring the barrel around is via shoulder rotation. RS is rear leg rotation.
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I agree that the feeling is one of swinging down. The tilting at the rear hip changes the plane.
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More nonsense. The rear lower back is the axis of rotation how so? And again you are promoting waist separation.
The tilt of the hip creates the side bend.
The more you resist rotation of the torso the more you will laterally bend.
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Ray, how long were you a member of his private site? I thought you didn't stay long on it. What did you get out of the discussion on the private site about the 3 rotations? The hips and how they function was one of those rotations. Englishbey discussed both pelvic tilt and lateral tilt continuously on his private site. He didn't just focus on pelvic tilt. I taught both to my dd from information from that private site.
My comments in my first post in this thread didn't have anything to do with hands but while Englishbey did discuss connection as it pertained to shoulder rotation, he also explain and demonstrated the "hands coming off of the merry go round." IOWs, the hands come into connection and then leave connection.
