Ferris wheel or merry go round?

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Cannonball

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Feb 25, 2009
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I use the merry-go-round analogy. It all depends upon how you explain it and what you believe. I do believe that the hands come into "connection" or a relationship with that back shoulder for a very brief time and then comes off of the merry-go-round. I see this in check swings etc. Since this is one of those hotly contested cues, swing a bat yourself and see what you believe.
 
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I dont use either one!

My focus is resisting what the shoulders naturally want to do, OPEN!

The bat path is a force on the handle into swivel around the forearm!

The rest is marketing!

USE YOUR HANDS!

Getting youth hitter to keep from spinning is the hard part. These twitter guys that take trained athletes. Show them something, and claim them is something I see happening more and more. Its much harder to develop your kid and other kids from day 1!

This hitting thing is laughable! Its not that hard!

Teach them not to pull the bat in with the elbow. Teach them to resist back ( show them how )

Most of the things we harp on are non teach.

Hit the ball at jut, You cant hit the ball at jut if your elbow/shoulder is flying open
Hit the ball as the barrel is coming out of its downward plane.
Getting them to trust this depth is hard!

Getting younger kids to do this is hard! REAL HARD!

Posing on twitter is easy!
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
I'll be back, but I wanted to use one clip. And I'll break it down for anyone's needs.

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Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
Shoulders are bypassed in the sense that they are not force creators. Said another way the torso should not be providing the turning impetus. The torso resists as the rear leg turns it forward. Rich's oscillating fan is a really good analogy.

The fan blades are the barrel and the mechanism that turns the fan is the rear leg.

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Simple enough to understand your point. Thanks.
 

Cannonball

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Feb 25, 2009
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Here is the problem with the "merry-go-wheel" analogy. Some see it as pulling the hands into connection and riding that connection in a sense as the shoulder rotate. I don't teach that. If you were ever played on a merry-go-round, if it is spinning and you jump on the merry-go-round, it will throw you right off. That is what I teach. I wanted to clear that up some.
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
Here is the problem with the "merry-go-wheel" analogy. Some see it as pulling the hands into connection and riding that connection in a sense as the shoulder rotate. I don't teach that. If you were ever played on a merry-go-round, if it is spinning and you jump on the merry-go-round, it will throw you right off. That is what I teach. I wanted to clear that up some.

Clear, I like your analogy and have used it.

Added: I haven't used your exact analogy. Yours is a little different, but I like it.:cool:
 
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This is obviously an inside pitch, would you consider this as a good example of the rear leg and hands (fan) ?

Absolutely. The camera angle skews the look but the hands never leave the rear shoulder. The barrel is turned about the hands and the rear leg turns it forward.
 
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