Wrist roll- what to do?

Shawn said:

You more then likely are dealing with swing plane issues that are causing the wrists to roll. The lead arm for example might be completely out of the plane of the shoulders, the lead arm could be finishing down. Lead arm work might help therefor, but it might take more work then just a simple correction.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57TYka7BijA

Friend of mine DD who was taking lessons (from a former athlete) and she could only hit ground balls. She was being taught "keep that lead elbow close to your body and never allow the bat to finish above your head." I think this a real old school,flat swing, softball is different than baseball teach. I didn't hear anything about wrist flick but would not be surprised if I had. I sent him a couple videos including this one (because it is polar opposite to what she was being taught) . She is not taking lesson from her anymore. And within two weeks, she is has improved her swing quite notably. She unleashed the lead arm and is hitting lasers now. The transformation is stunning.

Lesson learned...... former athlete does not (necessarily) equal good hitting instructor.

obbay said:

Thanks for all the good advice and discussion. Upon continued examination, i am seeing lead arm problems with the elbow low. Another thing that will help that i hadnt heard mentioned is the drill ive seen Oklahoma do with tennis balls, a tennis racket and practicing the backhand. Power “V” is also a good cue that cant be executed corectly if the wrists are rolling. While Rolling the wrists into contact may be a symptom of another problem, it still needs to be corrected. Thanks!

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That will lead to true wrist rollover.

As for correcting rolling wrists ... I'd be careful. The wrists do roll ... and inhibition of that will inhibit whip. Correct the issue with the lead arm ... say nothing about wrist roll over ... allow the hands/wrists to become whipped and rollover.

Shawn said:

I don't think one needs the extension shown here. But the extend again is just finishing away from the body during wrist roll.

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Firstly, if somebody thinks that a softball / baseball swing mechanic is cut and paste - that's far from the truth. The OP was looking for ideas that keep a girl from rolling over the wrists early. I see a lot of folks sharing ideas, which is awesome. Because what might work for one 'girl' - may not work for another. It's really as simple as that.

I like the 'nails to the sky' approach for some girls. Heck, some of the most successful Collegiate Coaches implore the method. But think about the different styles of hitting. Some girls use a negative / positive load technique and use a timing step, others use a toe tap. Others dont move their front foot off the ground at all except a turn at impact (this style may be for a naturally strong girl, who 'the less movement' the better). Just not sure why anybody needs to get worked up.

This video of Correa is awesome. The late extension, and the finish late clearly shows the wrist long staying through impact nicely (Power V somebody said too) and finally folding over much later after impact. Lets face it, no matter what people think, after the impact and split the ball has already exited, meaning its over. Yet the late finish can help girls stay long through. It's the old saying, Quick To - Long Through approach.

FiveFrameSwing said:

That is one of the most common issues I see when given a hitter that truly does have a roll-over issue. Fix the lead arm action and you'll never have to mention anything about the hands rolling over prematurely.

Now ... it is also the case that the top hand wrist should follow a release path of ulnar deviation into and through impact ... and that will lead to a roll over as the top hand wrist reaches the range of motion limit of ulnar deviation. It's part of what I refer to as "educated hands".

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FiveF


You offer advise but , How are you fixing the lead arm? That's easy to say but what is the process in your opinion.

6TO4TO3 said:

FiveF


You offer advise but , How are you fixing the lead arm? That's easy to say but what is the process in your opinion.

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Howdy Lefthook (man of 1000 aliases).

It sure is easy to say. Easy to do as well.

obbay said:

I relocated this post as it was supposed to go here in the first place.

U18 team and some of the players have a recurring issue with wrist roll. i know I've heard of some but can't remember what the best drills are for this. Reverse top hand? one handed swings bottom hand only?
thanks

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Reverse hand swing is what I use if the wrist roll is happening too early in the swing. I try to get them to use the whole front side of the body to pull the bat all the way through. Also not give up on it. Pull all the way through with a big finish

SL