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J.Galt

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Not really a recruiting scandal

A recruiting scandal would be where a school, it's coaches or it's boosters gave illegal benefits to a student athlete or their family in order for that student athlete to choose that school and it's athletic team over another school and it's athletic team.


What this is, is a guy here in Newport taking money from celebrities and the wealthy to fudge college admissions or bribe college coaches to give preferred walk-on status to undeserving students who otherwise wouldn't have been able to attend those schools. None of the students ever played on the colleges athletic programs or got any athletic scholarships out of this.
They also falsified test scores

Calling it a "recruiting scandal" is a bit of FAKE NEWS
 

J.Galt

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They took athletic money out of the pockets of legitimate athletes. They disgraced the accommodations in place for college test taking for students who actually need it. And... not to mention the harm to their own kids. Heard national news say parents were embarrassed that their kids weren’t smart enough.


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Absolutely not defending these parents but what athletic money was taken by them or their spoiled, entitled brats?
If anything they were given preference as a walk on and still paid their full tuition, likely never seeing the inside of the athletic facilities.
What they took were the allocated student admission seats from other, more deserving, students. Nothing from the athletic programs though other than a few coaches dignity
 
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Ken Krause

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The Gtown tennis coach and Yale soccer coach both pocketed close to $3 million in a just a few years. I think it will effect recruiting in every sport, almost immediately. This has put a bright light on how much power coaches have in this system. When a single person can decide on a million dollars worth of tuition every year, there is going to be corruption. Harvard has a committee so that's why they weren't involved (too many people would have to be paid off). If I had to guess, going forward you will see a recruit's academic and athletic accomplishments more scrutinized, and verified by more people. A lot of this is well known by travel parents and players but it's sort of one of those things people don't make a big fuss about. But they will.
This reminds me of when people were taking advantage of Disney's policy to let special needs kids and their parties to avoid the normal line. The new system they have is alot less friendly to special needs kids and their families. The people who play by the rules and legitimately put in the work always face the consequences.
 
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9 coaches and only one administrator indicted. If this doesn't illustrate the excessive power and authority college coaches have I don't know what does.
 
Nov 26, 2010
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Not really a recruiting scandal

A recruiting scandal would be where a school, it's coaches or it's boosters gave illegal benefits to a student athlete or their family in order for that student athlete to choose that school and it's athletic team over another school and it's athletic team.


What this is, is a guy here in Newport taking money from celebrities and the wealthy to fudge college admissions or bribe college coaches to give preferred walk-on status to undeserving students who otherwise wouldn't have been able to attend those schools. None of the students ever played on the colleges athletic programs or got any athletic scholarships out of this.
They also falsified test scores

Calling it a "recruiting scandal" is a bit of FAKE NEWS

100% its a recruiting scandal. Imagine your kid didn't get on the crew team at USC because 2 kids who never rowed a boat in their life were given spots that your dd deserved. What would you call it then? The difference is this scandal is purely about money in the coaches pockets and not for athletic advantage.
 

Strike2

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100% its a recruiting scandal. Imagine your kid didn't get on the crew team at USC because 2 kids who never rowed a boat in their life were given spots that your dd deserved. What would you call it then? The difference is this scandal is purely about money in the coaches pockets and not for athletic advantage.

There's zero indication that kids admitted in this way ever took up any spots on a college team. If you read about this scam, it was about coaches being bribed to identify certain kids as "recruits" so that whatever academic allowances are made for athletes at a particular school would apply to them. They took up spots at the universities that should have gone to more academically qualified students, but from what's been reported, that didn't extend to actual spots on college athletic teams.
 
Nov 26, 2010
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There's zero indication that kids admitted in this way ever took up any spots on a college team. If you read about this scam, it was about coaches being bribed to identify certain kids as "recruits" so that whatever academic allowances are made for athletes at a particular school would apply to them. They took up spots at the universities that should have gone to more academically qualified students, but from what's been reported, that didn't extend to actual spots on college athletic teams.
Do coaches have an unlimited number of recruits they can bring into the school? Is there a roster limit for preferred salmons at each school? I don’t know the answer. But if it’s yes at any of these schools then this affected athletes. And either yes or no it shows how little oversight there is from the university overseeing the recruits brought in.

edited to note: Not sure how the word walkons was corrected to salmons
 
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