Bonds ... catching the ball with the bat.

[Work=wins]

No ... knob down = hands down.

Keeping your hands up is very important .....

Knob down towards ball works for me. It ensures to stay above the ball. Because now you are attacking from the top. Probably the best cue I use.

This cue is needed when I see attempts to lift or dumping is present . If they are steep it's not a handpath issue. It's balance . We address this then.

 

[Work=wins]

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Now this is close to a good demo. Until he says don't use your hands. Use your shoulders right? We all know that isn't good. I'll take Alberts words over Josh's words. But Joshs description of his load is good imo.

 

[Work=wins]

The Pujols demo is promptly displayed in the "Hitting video Hall of Shame".

https://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-hitting-technical/21126-hitting-video-hall-shame-25.html

Ooooh. You showed me. Thanks again. You looked silly earlier, when you said direction wasn't found in the pujols demo. Then you admitted that he showed direction , which is SO IMPORTANT. So now you have to get me. Ok. You got me. Feel better? Do you have a good demo?

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

The quote from Driveline Baseball is accurate, in my opinion. And why some people that use Zepp and the other tools we discussed earlier can be disappointed at times. Some people are looking for a quick fix and expect the gadgets to be 'the cure'. But the data provided still requires analysis. One hitter in particular was constantly talking about an "uppercut". By using the Zepp, I was able to show her (and her father), that she was just hitting the ball too far out front. In addition to hand path and barrel path, it will also show point of contact, which I have found to be a valuable tidbit. We worked on hitting the ball deeper and it provided results almost immediately. Thank you for posting that MB.

Do you do anything specific to work on hitting the ball deeper?

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

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Lol ... He point blank states that he never wants to think about his hands going towards the baseball.

 

[FP26]

Do you do anything specific to work on hitting the ball deeper?

Depends on the player... In this particular case, the player and her father (former D1 player himself) talked about her having too much of an uppercut. I didn't see it. So I asked her to take some tee swings placing the tee herself based on what her idea of the ideal contact point would be. Ironically her ideal contact point was pretty close to mine. Then I placed the Zepp sensor on her bat and pitched to her, showing her what her actual contact point was. I showed her how her barrel path worked and how the 'uppercut' they were talking about was simply due to hitting the ball too far out front. In this hitter's case, she also had a tendency of pulling the ball. So we worked hard on hitting the ball the opposite way. Tee drills to determine her ideal contact point. Then front toss. After finding a point where we were both satisfied with that, I hooked up the sensor again, and showed her the improvement. The next step was front toss with different speeds. Once we were both satisfied with that, it was game time.

Honestly, this particular hitter is one of my favorite students. She is hungry to learn, willing to take feedback, and works harder than virtually anyone I know. She did receive a D1 offer for this coming fall, but turned it down. Her goal is to play multiple sports in college and the D1 school wanted her to focus on softball. She found the school that fits her academic needs and will allow her to do both. Great kid, and I'm thrilled she is reaching her goals.

 

[Mudders Brudder]

Like I've stated , I use the knob to teach barrel path. There are different ways. I use the same method the HOFs use. I use the hands as a starting point. I use what the pros say they use. I create whip in my players in their first lesson. You guys just dispute the pujols demo. But I keep saying I get 95% of problems to go away with this demo IME. Almost every flaw goes away when I teach knob towards the ball. No one has disputed this.

Seriously? You've got to be kidding, and now I know you're not reading my posts...or not comprehending them - one or the other.

I've had too many "knob/hands to the ball" hitters come to me when they couldn't catch up to above 12U pitching simply because most kids are too literal in their application of cues, and some coaches actually have some of them doing this (not saying you do)....

I have argued this for a lot of pages now. I like the demo because I know how to extract what is needed to learn. I like the barrel path because he exaggerates barrel up. I explain why to my players. Because he wants to stay short.

That's great "stay short" is another nice buzz word, but Pujols (Bonds) doesn't "stay short" by doing that in his game swings, even if that's what that future "HOFer" says he does.

No it doesn't look like a game swing. Nobodys demo does! That's such a silly argument. Listen to what you guys are arguing! But NOT ONE word has been said about what Albert said in his demo! Because he's spot on!

Saying, and doing are two different things. You say, "Keep the barrel up", but then you say, "turn the barrel" which is it? Because they are mutually exclusive of one another...if you "turn the barrel" from the "Position of Power" (Hudgens) or the "RVP Connection Point" (Slaught)....

Now if you're turning it out front after you've taken the hands "toward the ball", then you get what Pujols and Bonds are demoing, and that's not getting "behind and through" the ball that you say you like also.

You repeatedly tried to discredit my intelligence, I've been as polite as possible. I won't stoop down . It's not productive. Our exchange has been the same. That's too bad. You have twisted everything I've said.

Not sure how simply quoting you, and comparing what you say to what the words look like in demo swings of them, but if you feel that way...my apologies.

I wasn't the one saying that, "You stepped on yourself", or that, "you fell face first in it. It's like your bathing in it" if I recall...I believe that was somebody else.

Just for better understanding, here's a kid that was taught "hands/knob to (towards) the ball"....

...and has the same barrel path that Pujols/Bonds demonstrate in their teaching (notice the negative "angle of attack"). What would you say or do to correct him?

 

[Mudders Brudder]

Does anyone other than myself notice the the knob goes "towards the ball" in both of the swings shown below?

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/975973106706563073

 

[Eric F]

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I like this ^^^ demo a lot because it looks like what is actually happening in his game swing. Pujols' demo looks a million miles apart from his game swing.

 

[Work=wins]

Look. I believe knob with direction. Not turn the barrel. Someone invented turn the barrel as something mysterious . I've stated it's nothing more then getting direction early in the swing. Deep woosh is a made up behind and through path, where you start dropping the barrel rearward. Dumping comes to mind.
Short is not a buzz word. It's not a fad. It's always been the norm. Buzz or en vogue terms are trendy things that are 'in' right now. Short to is a fundamental found when a good handpath is realized.
Launch angle is trendy. The older good veterans don't concern themselves with that. They know better.

Understand ?

Ps. Your hitter has a balance issue.
Pss. In regards to post 197