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    Hard to believe that this is actually an issue. My take is that if something as benign as a prayer circle makes players "uncomfortable" they are woefully unprepared for the future. Sounds like drama for the sake of drama.
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    I doubt many people get upset about it IRL. I've been one of the more vocal against it here, but IRL I just pack up my chair and head back to the team's home camp. I can debate something on a message board but still let it pass when it actually happens. Philosophy v. reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riseball View Post
    Hard to believe that this is actually an issue. My take is that if something as benign as a prayer circle makes players "uncomfortable" they are woefully unprepared for the future. Sounds like drama for the sake of drama.
    Some people can be offended by most anything. And it doesn't have to be faith based. When the DD's were starting out in rec ball they were participating in a post season national trail type tournament series. The kids were warming up for a game against a team from another state. The other team had a dance thing they did before each game in front of the parents. The invited our kids to come and join them. Our kids declined and kept warming up for the game. You'd thought our kids ran over there called the parents names and spit on them. Some of the moms were speaking very loudly among themselves about how disrespectful, among other things, our kids were for turning down the other team down. Luckily, the parents on our team were smart enough to keep quiet. And it also helped the kids beat the other team badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky Guy View Post
    Some people can be offended by most anything. And it doesn't have to be faith based. When the DD's were starting out in rec ball they were participating in a post season national trail type tournament series. The kids were warming up for a game against a team from another state. The other team had a dance thing they did before each game in front of the parents. The invited our kids to come and join them. Our kids declined and kept warming up for the game. You'd thought our kids ran over there called the parents names and spit on them. Some of the moms were speaking very loudly among themselves about how disrespectful, among other things, our kids were for turning down the other team down. Luckily, the parents on our team were smart enough to keep quiet. And it also helped the kids beat the other team badly.
    People can get offended by anything. My DD 3 and a friend did once join the other team in some dancing during a break for a rain delay, but they would not take time away from warm-up for a dance.

    Considering all the times the prayer circle has come up, interesting nobody has come up with a strategy of deliberately p***ing off a hot-headed coach on the other team by having a player draw a pentagram in the middle of a prayer circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grcsftbll View Post
    I doubt many people get upset about it IRL. I've been one of the more vocal against it here, but IRL I just pack up my chair and head back to the team's home camp. I can debate something on a message board but still let it pass when it actually happens. Philosophy v. reality.
    People don't get offended by prayer circle. it's the offence taken by the team and the parents who does the prayer circle when other team don't participate in their prayer circle. Our HS team hold prayer circle after every game, we played a team about couple counties over and beat them. After the game our team shook hands and held hands around the pitcher's circle for prayer. Other team politely walked away and went on to their after game meeting. Our parents and girls were offended because the other team did not join them. They thought that other team did not join them because they were mad that they lost the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phandle View Post
    People don't get offended by prayer circle. it's the offence taken by the team and the parents who does the prayer circle when other team don't participate in their prayer circle. Our HS team hold prayer circle after every game, we played a team about couple counties over and beat them. After the game our team shook hands and held hands around the pitcher's circle for prayer. Other team politely walked away and went on to their after game meeting. Our parents and girls were offended because the other team did not join them. They thought that other team did not join them because they were mad that they lost the game.
    That is exactly the criticism I have been seeing about prayer circles. They are supposed to be voluntary, but people get angry when girls decline to participate. If nobody made an issue of girls not participating, the circles wouldn't be an issue.

    It sounds like some of the players, and some of the parents, need to grow up. To paraphrase riseball, if those girls have so much trouble with someone not joining them in a voluntary activity, they are woefully unprepared for the future.


    My kids have never encountered a prayer circle. I've lived in many different parts of the country, and I appreciate different things about different place. There are things I absolutely LOVE about the south, southerners, and about the various southern cultures. I love southern food (except grits), southern politeness and hospitality, the way people greet complete strangers walking down the street, the mild winters, the culture of service in many parts of the south, and many other things. I always found it touching the way my Asian-born wife and I would often find people in remote parts of the south who had served in Asia, had a great experience, and treated her with more respect than is found in some other parts of the country.

    There are also things I can do without -- chiggers, ticks, unbearable heat and humidity in parts of the summer, and people who get bent out of shape about things as trivial as someone else not participating in a prayer circle.

    But then, there are those in the south who could never tolerate a Wisconsin winter.

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    Bob,

    This Southerner would never survive winter in Wisconsin, but you are dead wrong about grits! Cheese grits are a slice of Heaven here on Earth. Cream of wheat, on the other hand, BLECH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMMom1740 View Post
    Bob,

    This Southerner would never survive winter in Wisconsin, but you are dead wrong about grits! Cheese grits are a slice of Heaven here on Earth. Cream of wheat, on the other hand, BLECH.
    Maybe you just know how to cook them the right way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMMom1740 View Post
    Bob,

    This Southerner would never survive winter in Wisconsin, but you are dead wrong about grits! Cheese grits are a slice of Heaven here on Earth. Cream of wheat, on the other hand, BLECH.
    I spent many weekends with my New Hampshire native grandparents eating cream of wheat for breakfast and loved it! A little brown sugar, butter or milk if you want, and it's all good! But I have to agree with you on the cheese grits as well, I thought they were a great addition to real fried chicken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMMom1740 View Post
    Bob,

    This Southerner would never survive winter in Wisconsin, but you are dead wrong about grits! Cheese grits are a slice of Heaven here on Earth. Cream of wheat, on the other hand, BLECH.
    This is exactly what I was going to say! Grits are delicious but I agree about the rest. lol
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