JJsqueeze
Dad, Husband....legend
sigh....you can take the attorney out of the courtroom but you can't take the courtroom out of the attorney....
I have not flip flopped at all, haven't backtracked at all, haven't adjusted my thinking at all. I have tried to clarify, tried to explain in different terms etc. Re-read and assume for a second that I am not trying to win an argument but explain something and instead of trying to find nitpicky straw men, just try to understand the concept then maybe you will see it differently. Everything I have said from post one was all based on one simple concept that I have tried repeatedly to get across to you but you remain hung up on a straw man about the grip, or the name of the pitch. If you are misinterpreting something that is on you.
If you want to believe that this simple concept of smooth vs rough does not lead to side forces then be my guest, if you want to believe in Bigfoot and a flat Earth that is also your choice. But Cricket bowlers, physicists, MLB pitchers, bucket dads and all 5 of my dogs think you are just being obstinate. If you choose to accept this concept but then want to say that you can achieve it with 4 seams spinning to the wind instead of 2 then that is also your choice, but I think I have put up enough information that if you want to start opening your mind a little you might see that maybe there is something to this.
I have not flip flopped at all, haven't backtracked at all, haven't adjusted my thinking at all. I have tried to clarify, tried to explain in different terms etc. Re-read and assume for a second that I am not trying to win an argument but explain something and instead of trying to find nitpicky straw men, just try to understand the concept then maybe you will see it differently. Everything I have said from post one was all based on one simple concept that I have tried repeatedly to get across to you but you remain hung up on a straw man about the grip, or the name of the pitch. If you are misinterpreting something that is on you.
If you want to believe that this simple concept of smooth vs rough does not lead to side forces then be my guest, if you want to believe in Bigfoot and a flat Earth that is also your choice. But Cricket bowlers, physicists, MLB pitchers, bucket dads and all 5 of my dogs think you are just being obstinate. If you choose to accept this concept but then want to say that you can achieve it with 4 seams spinning to the wind instead of 2 then that is also your choice, but I think I have put up enough information that if you want to start opening your mind a little you might see that maybe there is something to this.