Once again let me post a update. My daughter started pitching rec league at 12. Never took a lesson till she was a old 12. Looked like she was bowling when she kicked her right leg. Wasn't very fast.....I was never the coach, so she didn't pitch but once in a while as a old 12. Once in a blue moon both years at 14u. Kept taking lessons, team got in a bind needed a number two her first year of 16u. Gave her the ball every other game , still slow. Team dumped her, found a team as a old 16u that gave her the ball every other game. Went up to 18u ....coach didn't want her, switched teams. Got a 18u team to give her no.2 spot. Tonite on a Jugs gun hit 56.7 as a high. Consistent 55-56 clocking! It's been painful, it's been aggravating, but we never gave up! She's got a really good stick! She may yet pitch in college!! I quit putting limits on HER!!