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Sep 29, 2014
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So you think if I throw 9 random batters up there you as an "expert" on your bucket know how to get each one out after watching a couple practice swings...well your sir are simply a better man than I :D

You can generalize maybe your can jam those first two lefty slappers inside or pitch them off the plate if they look like they are taking a half step towards the first base line, and you probably don't want to hang something inside half thigh high to the number 3,4 and 5 hitter. After number 6 fouls off four straight pitches you call a change, but that is not having a game plan that is just taking the game as it comes to you.
 
Feb 17, 2014
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A couple things.

First you have to in practice be sure your pitcher can execute in other words pitch what your are calling...can't tell you how many coaches I see calling pitches for pitchers that don't have any control and could not hit spots being called 20% of the time.

Calling pitches against a team you have never seen and never scouted is fairly meaningless. Keep the ball low, come in and out, get a feel for the zone and then see what is working that day, maybe by the late innings (third time through which is when the pitcher needs some good advice) you can actually provide some meaningful input.

Communication is the most important thing, just one example if the coach want the drop ball low and inside but the ump is not giving that pitch you have three choices, throw the pitch for a ball (which is OK if you think hitter are swinging at it), bring up and out over the plate a little so it's called a strike (not a really good idea) or throw another pitch in another spot. The coach calling the pitches, the catcher and the pitcher all need to be on the same page and should touch base between every half inning how did it go this inning and who is up next inning. If your catcher really knows her stuff I think you could do just fine with her calling pitches with coach just doing a little scouting report especially in the late innings using spray chart from previous innings.

Really? I honestly can't believe everyone let this slide. I know there are several of you out there that watch batters on deck and during their at bat and know what to throw, regardless if you have ever played them before or not. Don't get me wrong, batters will surprise you but there are certain things to look for that absolutely tip you off as to what pitch to call as a coach. Of course I am not suggesting that all coaches are good at it nor am I saying that all pitchers/catchers can't do it better than some coaches but the blanket statement quoted is absolutely inaccurate. "OK kids, the game plan for the day is to guess our way past the first 9 batters. After that we will know what pitches we have working and what pitches they can hit! Then if we aren't too far in hole we may be able to stop them from scoring."

Sorry but I don't see this as a winning strategy against good teams.

I certainly watch the batters in the on deck and can usually spot a hole in their swing. Casting, dropping hands, etc. I am no hitting instructor but I can usually pick out what a kid cannot hit. But as [MENTION=11730]djcarter1966[/MENTION] said "...be sure your pitcher can execute ...what your are calling..." and the vast majority of TB pitchers and most college pitchers simply do not have that ability. Add in that many of the pitches thrown do not move as advertised/intended and the actual pitching calling becomes even less of a factor.

Many pitch callers perform the task with zero regard to what the pitcher is actually delivering. It does little good to mix 3 pitches when they can only locate one of them. This leaves the other 2/3rds where you can only guess where the pitch will end up. This is one of the reasons a drop ball is so popular. Even if it is hung over the plate, if it is left where it is naturally headed (down) it usually will not get crushed. IME any pitcher that can keep a pitch low and in the corners of the zone, regardless of the pitch thrown will have a pretty good day and usually pitch well enough to win. Granted they may not dominate, but they will pitch well enough to win. Unfortunately may coaches and pitchers fail to pitch well enough to win in pursuit of domination.
 
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Nov 18, 2013
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Glad it worked out well for your DD. But I cannot pass up calling out nonsense and keeping it real.

I was born in a hospital so I guess that makes me a doctor? And since I ate dinner at Olive Garden last night I am both a chef and Italian? The fact that she played D1 means she played D1 ball. Nothing more. Does not mean she knows squat about the game or if she is a softball genius. Plenty of D1 players fall into either category. And let's remember that D1 in no way equates to a high level of play. It has to do with funding for scholarships, nothing more.

I agree with your point that playing D1 doesn't guarantee someone will make a good coach. However, I would expect that most picked up at least a little knowledge in the thousands of games and practices they took part in through the years. DD coaches in the off season and she's good at it for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with softball, but her playing experience is also an asset.
 
Jun 1, 2013
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So you think if I throw 9 random batters up there you as an "expert" on your bucket know how to get each one out after watching a couple practice swings...well your sir are simply a better man than I :D

You can generalize maybe your can jam those first two lefty slappers inside or pitch them off the plate if they look like they are taking a half step towards the first base line, and you probably don't want to hang something inside half thigh high to the number 3,4 and 5 hitter. After number 6 fouls off four straight pitches you call a change, but that is not having a game plan that is just taking the game as it comes to you.

I am certainly not claiming to be an expert. But if you put 9 random batters up with a pitcher that can hit her spots we will sit 6 down with K's, pop ups, or ground ball dinkers. Why not 9? Because I am not an expert, I have yet to see a pitcher hit every spot in a game, sometimes the batters win, and sometimes an ump is blind.
 

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