Thank you for the replies.
I totally agree that a ball hitting any part of a tree in foul/dead ball area should be not be called a catch.
I was just wondering if there was another rule reference that covers this when I make my case to get this rule changed.
Catch/in flight should be enough, but...
Ok, I have a question about a ground local for our local league.
USA softball rules.
One field has a tree that is about 75% in dead ball area, the rest hangs a bit over foul ball area, none of this tree (at the moment anyway) is in any part hanging over fair territory.
The ground rules says...
The confusion about "minors' playing by "major' rules is where you have your problem.
This is the 8-9-10 (they added '8' this year) division and NOT minors. Some of the players on your team, or others, may have played in the majors for the regular season.
For LL minors, the 5 run rule is no...
Comp, I agree, not everything is spelled out, sometimes it takes a mix of a few different rules too.
Seeing as how I am, so far, the only one in my group saying two bases, I was hoping to find something to help back my case.
Well, I did find the ruling comp posted, but not being a pitch didn't get far with it.
I also used your argument, djcarter1966, but used speedy R1 on first almost on 3rd, being sent back to 2nd because of 'accidental' kick. Also ASSUMED I'd be sending a coach home early on that one. :p
A rule...
Ok, first off, I understand this is from the certification test, but I am only going to ask about the one question we (mostly me) are having a hard time agreeing on.
Q7) With no outs and R1 on 3B, R2 on 2B and B3 at bat, F1 throws a wild pitch that gets away from F2 and stops a few feet from...
The 2014 T-rules are out of date because of changes adopted from the 2014 Little League Congress.
ALL divisions 11/12, AND below, can pitch 12 innings in a day, if they pitch 7 or more innings in a day, then one days rest is required (no rest for 6 innings or less). Juniors (13/14) and above do...
Well, this went way off track....I was hoping that the point would be what would you call on this play and not on what the umpire did call or what F2 should have done.
cayonjoe and ajaywill are the only ones to attempt to answer the question as written, thanks. joe said his was a wild guess...
Greenmonsters. I would think your 'what if' doesn't really change things much.
Interference doesn't have to be intentional, so we still have interference by a retired runner/teammate...so we have a dead ball and an out.
I am still calling the runner closet to home out and counting the run.
If...
This question came up as a ‘what would you call it?’ while killing time waiting for our high school umpire meeting to start last night.
I think the answer would be the same for all organizations, but waiting to see if correct (most of us cover Fed, Little League, ASA and/or USSSA):
Situation...
We agree it is poorly written....and given with the caveat 'don't read into the question'
That is why we had we came here for some input
Thanks for everyone's help
--odie
After seeing this is the rules supplement
"Umpires only need to judge whether the balls moves from the bat "sharply" and "directly" versus a ball that has a preceptible arc and/or the catcher moves their glove/mitt to catch the ball after contact with the bat."
I guess C is the best answer for...
oops....hit submit too quickly...
posted part of our discussion above
and the true/false......that's the key...no one can find a rule to support either side
We have looked at both definitions...
How you justify an out (love outs as much as the next umpire)...for the ball to be an out there...rules say you need a perceptible arc
That is nothing the description of the play
So, the following two questions are causing a small debate between a few of us for our ASA test this year. If you only want to direct us to the rule reference that would be fine…we just can’t seem to find it.
Question one, some say is it only in LL and Pro ball that the pitcher must retire the...