Poor sportsmanship

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Jun 27, 2011
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North Carolina
Assuming from a previous post that the catcher has a scholarship pending, if she loses that scholarship we'll know this meant something. If not, then some college coaches are apparently OK with thuggery (hell, we already know that).

The pitcher and catcher from Cal Cruisers that beaned the blue on purpose - I recall they both had scholarships - does anyone know if they lost them? I heard (but I don't know) that nothing happened to them or the coach.

Good question. The Georgia baseball catcher involved in a umpire-beaning a few years ago was suddenly unwelcome at the college he was planning to attend. He denied wrongdoing. I don't know if I consider this incident quite as bad as that, though. Would depend on how she handles it.
 
Sep 24, 2013
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Midwest
Am I missing something here-what I see is the runner clearly in foul territory and the catcher with one foot on the line and the majority of her body inside fair territory. The runner makes a real effort about 4 feet from the plate to the chalkline-she changed her path. To me it looks like she was trying to take out the catcher who was standing still.

If the catcher had gone down would we be upset with the runner? I think the runner had ill intentions and got "schucked off" by an aware and stronger player. The catcher didn't take the hit she deflected it hence the elbow. Military, LEO etc teach this move to redirect an attacker-its an akido move.

The runner even tensed up and raised her shoulder/hands anticipating a collision. The catcher never moved her feet-the runner clearly could have avoided a collision but chose not to.
 
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Strike2

Allergic to BS
Nov 14, 2014
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It never ceases to amaze how stuff happens in games played by adolescent girls that would easily produce a fight, and probably a bench-clearing brawl if it happened on any men's baseball or softball field. That's one of the worst cheap-shots I've ever seen...times TWO!
 

rdbass

It wasn't me.
Jun 5, 2010
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Not here.
To me it looks like she was trying to take out the catcher who was standing still.
Maybe the runner was trying to touch home plate that the catcher was blocking without the ball.........or receiving the ball.
 
Dec 23, 2009
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San Diego
It would be interesting to see if there are any repercussions to the umps for missing the dirty play over and over again. The Blue (not ump) team may very well have the eyes of every ump in the state on them next season. Anything even borderline could lead to some ejections.

I seriously doubt it. Every HS umpiring meeting I went to this past season (just ended in SoCal last weekend) it was made VERY clear to us that we were not to eject players for anything other than a bat-swinging incident. Too much paperwork. Restrict the player and the coach to the bench instead for the game.
 
Oct 11, 2010
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Chicago, IL
Am I missing something here-what I see is the runner clearly in foul territory and the catcher with one foot on the line and the majority of her body inside fair territory. The runner makes a real effort about 4 feet from the plate to the chalkline-she changed her path. To me it looks like she was trying to take out the catcher who was standing still.

If the catcher had gone down would we be upset with the runner? I think the runner had ill intentions and got "schucked off" by an aware and stronger player. The catcher didn't take the hit she deflected it hence the elbow. Military, LEO etc teach this move to redirect an attacker-its an akido move.

The runner even tensed up and raised her shoulder/hands anticipating a collision. The catcher never moved her feet-the runner clearly could have avoided a collision but chose not to.

That is the first one and agree with you. The 2nd one the C was the aggressor.
 
Jun 24, 2010
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Mississippi
"To me it looks like she was trying to take out the catcher who was standing still. "

I don't see anything like this at all. She was heading toward the plate. That's where she has to go.

"If the catcher had gone down would we be upset with the runner?"

Most certainly!

"Military, LEO etc teach this move to redirect an attacker-its an akido move."

If this was war or a riot, I wouldn't have an issue with this move. Being that it's HS softball, it has no place in the game.
 
Sep 29, 2014
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Am I missing something here-what I see is the runner clearly in foul territory and the catcher with one foot on the line and the majority of her body inside fair territory. The runner makes a real effort about 4 feet from the plate to the chalkline-she changed her path. To me it looks like she was trying to take out the catcher who was standing still.

If the catcher had gone down would we be upset with the runner? I think the runner had ill intentions and got "schucked off" by an aware and stronger player. The catcher didn't take the hit she deflected it hence the elbow. Military, LEO etc teach this move to redirect an attacker-its an akido move.

^^^^ Really ?? The ball is in the outfield and you are telling me the catcher needs to block the base path like that?? Besides being unsportsmanlike it is against the rules The big thing I don't get is why like in baseball the girls don't police this kind of stuff on their own. By HS baseball and for sure by college no baseball catcher in the right mind would try this, their own team captain would rip them a new one for putting a target on the rest of the team, the next play at the plate would involve the catcher getting blown up and that 85mph fastball in his back would not feel very good either...not that it is right or wrong...but lessons are learned at at this stage in their baseball career boys know the rules of the road either they are taught right in the first place or they learn them the hard way.
 
Sep 24, 2013
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Midwest
Maybe the runner was trying to touch home plate that the catcher was blocking without the ball.........or receiving the ball.

If you look at the angle you can see she had plenty of space to touch home plate that sticks our 10 inches outside the chalk line. the chalkline goes to the front of the plate.

If the catcher was straddling the chalkline and facing third that's blocking the plate but she was in fair territory and facing the pitcher-she may have been close to the basepath but wasn't blocking the plate-she gave the runner the basepath that the runner chose. the runner chose to change directions and the runner initiated the contact. If the runner had stayed in her chosen base path this wouldn't even have been close to a collision.

Again what would we be saying if the runner bowled over the catcher and sent her flying on a non play at home? Wed be yelling at the runner for taking a cheap shot.

Perception.



That's what I see in the small video segment as I didn't watch the game or know anything about the players or teams.
 

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