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Nov 18, 2013
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Here is question that I would like to throw out there since radars/rev fire were talked about. anybody have any thoughts on what the affect of movement on a pitch does to the accuracy of a radar/Rev fire reading. since I have both and seen some patterns develop. Ive come to the conclusion that the more movement a pitch has the slower the pitch will be recorded. I know since the rev fire measures release to pop the less of a straight line the pitch travels to longer the distance so the more inaccurate the speed reading will be to the slow side. Also with a pocket radar same thing if the ball is not traveling in as straight line at the device you would think it might read a little slow. I would be curios if a pocket radar would be somewhat accurate in gauging the speed of a boomerang type trajectory. I have noticed that even though hello elbow/peel drop style looks fast compared to IR/ movement pitcher of the same age and skill but when you gun them the IR pitcher records much faster no matter the method of recording used.

I use a pocket radar and have found it to be very accurate when used correctly. Standing too far off to one side will give different results. If you’re lined directly in front or behind the pitcher I don’t think a ball near the strike zone moves enough to significantly throw off any radar. I’m no physicist though. I sometimes get false, or no readings when pitches get away, but that’s it.

Some of DD’s movement pitches register lower speeds, but only because she’s throwing them slower.
 
Nov 18, 2013
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What other choice do we have? We start now we got the 3-6 month window. Otherwise at 50mph she's done anyhow.

The beauty of softball is there’s a place for everyone. We had girls play with our 18U team this fall that couldn’t throw much more than fifty in a hurricane. However, they were HIGHLY effective coming in after a girl throwing in the sixties.

There’s also other opportunities. When we started club ball a few years ago most of the players had previously been pitchers. They could have stayed with it and probably pitched into HS. Instead they focused on other skills and now almost all will play in college next year.
 
Dec 12, 2012
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Here is question that I would like to throw out there since radars/rev fire were talked about. anybody have any thoughts on what the affect of movement on a pitch does to the accuracy of a radar/Rev fire reading. since I have both and seen some patterns develop. Ive come to the conclusion that the more movement a pitch has the slower the pitch will be recorded. I know since the rev fire measures release to pop the less of a straight line the pitch travels to longer the distance so the more inaccurate the speed reading will be to the slow side. Also with a pocket radar same thing if the ball is not traveling in as straight line at the device you would think it might read a little slow. I would be curios if a pocket radar would be somewhat accurate in gauging the speed of a boomerang type trajectory. I have noticed that even though hello elbow/peel drop style looks fast compared to IR/ movement pitcher of the same age and skill but when you gun them the IR pitcher records much faster no matter the method of recording used.

Makes sense. The shortest distance from point A to point B is a straight line. The shortest distance will reflect the fastest speed with the RevFire's distance calculation. Any movement away from a straight line will make the recorded speed slower.
 
Dec 12, 2012
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I use a pocket radar and have found it to be very accurate when used correctly. Standing too far off to one side will give different results. If you’re lined directly in front or behind the pitcher I don’t think a ball near the strike zone moves enough to significantly throw off any radar. I’m no physicist though. I sometimes get false, or no readings when pitches get away, but that’s it.

Some of DD’s movement pitches register lower speeds, but only because she’s throwing them slower.

With a radar device you are basically correct, but a RevFire doesn't use radar to display the speed.
 
Sep 18, 2012
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Trust me the Chicagoland softball community has some pretty fair pitchers. She is ONE of the best instructors, whether you cherry pick a video or not. I'm not running from a lady that was 104-8 in d1, was a assistant for Arizona for 7 years. Not what's your resume?
 

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I don't know about SoAzdad, but I once pitched a no hitter as the coach in 6u coach pitch....so I think I have a seat at the expert table, my stuff was dancing....they couldn't buy a hit that day. Even struck out my own daughter...TWICE!...that's right b*tches....TWICE!
 
Jun 18, 2012
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Trust me the Chicagoland softball community has some pretty fair pitchers. She is ONE of the best instructors, whether you cherry pick a video or not. I'm not running from a lady that was 104-8 in d1, was a assistant for Arizona for 7 years. Not what's your resume?

I didn't post the clip to suggest that anyone run away from her. She probably is a great instructor. I am, however, curious as to why she's teaching some of what you see in that clip.
 
Nov 6, 2013
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Trust me the Chicagoland softball community has some pretty fair pitchers. She is ONE of the best instructors, whether you cherry pick a video or not. I'm not running from a lady that was 104-8 in d1, was a assistant for Arizona for 7 years. Not what's your resume?

Indeed, you are correct. Her jersey number is retired and her picture is on the outfield wall with three others in Hillenbran Stadium. But Candrea himself recently said today's game is far different from that when Evans, and even when Finch pitched. It's now a hitter's game, and Nancy played when it was more pitcher's game (for dominant pitchers).

My point is to teach proper form to our youth. Obviously no one is perfect and Evans and others had success with HE. The times are a changin'.
 

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