Tell me theorys on bunting....

[Bullseye]

I should edit myself instead of saying slappers. Should say the speed element of left-handed batters who can drop a bunt or drive the ball there is no comparison in baseball to that.
There is no comparison. None. Actually think you should probably take a look at why baseball does not have a speed element and their game.

 

[JayW]

There is nothing comparable in baseball to slappers in fastpitch. Nothing.

I think Ichiro was similar to a softball slapper.

 

[_MIA_]

Move past sacrifice bunting and go do stats on lefty slappers.

I didn’t see anybody dismissing using small ball to try to get on base when appropriate.

 

[Bullseye]

I didn’t see anybody dismissing using small ball to try to get on base when appropriate.

Read people only wanting to say bunting is all about giving up an out.

 

[Bullseye]

I think Ichiro was similar to a softball slapper.

Proved speed is an element to contend with by having consecutive hits titles seasonally not home run title.

 

[_MIA_]

Read people only wanting to say bunting is all about giving up an out.

In this thread? Run expectancy charts can be used for determining whether giving up on an extra base hit makes sense as well but you have to use a few different probabilities in combination.

 

[Bullseye]

Results-based decision making is rarely an effective long-term strategy.

Run expectancy charts can be used for determining whether giving up on an extra base hit makes sense as well but you have to use a few different probabilities in combination.

You being a heavy numbers guy how would you explain not using results?

 

[_MIA_]

You being a heavy numbers guy how would you explain not using results?

Again the statistics (run expectancy charts) are based upon the average taken over all players. "Results based decisions" (if I understand what that term is meant to mean) are when you take into account the specific statistics of a given player (or players eg pitcher and hitter) who you know has statistics that are at the tails of the probability curves (eg far away from the average). As I said, a perfect example would be NL pitchers sacrificing often because they cannot hit worth a lick most of the time.

Teams which have many players whose statistics are far away from the average would likely benefit from not basing their decisions on statistics compiled for the "average player". A team full of NL pitchers or OU last year are examples (of course one is a good outlier and one is a bad one in terms of W/L).

 

[radness]

a perfect example would be NL pitchers sacrificing often because they cannot hit worth a lick most of the time.

This is the situation I brought up earlier in this discussion.

Point being not all of the Batters are equal to the pitchers they will be facing...
Notice in softball discussions here on dfp include rec all the way through college.

Talent levels are not always equivalent to each other and different strategies have to be taken.

(Not the same as Major League Baseball where all the best pitchers are facing all the best hitter. Was my point)

 

[radness]

Again the statistics (run expectancy charts) are based upon the average taken over all players. "Results based decisions" (if I understand what that term is meant to mean) are when you take into account the specific statistics of a given player (or players eg pitcher and hitter) who you know has statistics that are at the tails of the probability curves (eg far away from the average). As I said, a perfect example would be NL pitchers sacrificing often because they cannot hit worth a lick most of the time.

Teams which have many players whose statistics are far away from the average would likely benefit from not basing their decisions on statistics compiled for the "average player". A team full of NL pitchers or OU last year are examples (of course one is a good outlier and one is a bad one in terms of W/L).

Results based individual decisions can be as simple as
This batters swing and the batter are not good at rise balls and we are facing a rise ball pitcher.

Simply what i notice of strategies is~
Some people play the odds while others try to create better odds!

Definitely do not think that strategy is always a numerical equation. It definitely has to do with visual and knowledge of performance on the field of individual players and what you see in the other teams.