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    James Madison, and to an even greater extent, Minnesota really got snubbed by the tournament selection committee.

    The SEC is good and all, but these two teams are the real deal.
    I really hope MINN eliminates their SEC host team Alabama this week.

    JM is in Baylor's pool. Since they are not an SEC team, Ill just say: may the best team win. (and thats a really tough draw for Baylor!)
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    There is more to the selection process than the teams ability. The venue, location, and season attendance are all factors. Unfortunately Minnesota and JMU fell short.

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    James Madison got a good deal. Didn't they lose to Hofstra and Mercer? But they get to play in a regional where the host (Baylor) didn't necessarily deserve to host. So they should be happy, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoogansBluff View Post
    Didn't they lose to Hofstra and Mercer?
    LSU lost to PennSt. & Tulsa
    KY lost to Pitt twice.
    what's your point?

    The only dig against JMU in comparison to some of these other teams is strength of schedule.
    JMU certainly on the bubble, at best, to host a regional. But Minnesota? That's a serious snub.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoogansBluff View Post
    But they get to play in a regional where the host (Baylor) didn't necessarily deserve to host.
    I disagree. Baylor is a very good team this season.
    They have the goods to go very far.
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    You're right. What I initially was trying to say was that JMU, while good, wasn't so good that they should feel put out by not hosting, given SOS and the teams that beat them. And Baylor, upon further review, is probably better than I thought. I think both are right on the bubble of hosting, so they're appropriate for the 16/17, 15/18, 14/19 group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riseball View Post
    There is more to the selection process than the teams ability. The venue, location, and season attendance are all factors.
    really? that's crap.

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    The hard part just like all college sports is strength of schedule maybe JMU was close but Minnesota was pretty bad...this was really just a Big 10 snub the committee just felt the conference was just not good enough this year.

    Plus if the choice was between Univ of Minn or Alabama to host basically deciding between 16 and 17 the committee would choose Alabama every time given their history, etc. it might not be right but it is what it is. The problem was they did not see Minn as head and shoulders above all the middle/bottom of the SEC teams. But given the choice the did the best they could giving them the easiest regional they could #16, even if that means you end up going against #1 to get through...well time to prove yourself and step and beat Alabama

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    NCAA Women's Softball RPI after conference tournaments

    1 Florida Southeastern 50-6-0 12-3-0 13-1-0 25-2-0 0-0-0
    2 Oregon Pac-12 47-6-0 11-4-0 15-0-0 21-2-0 0-0-0
    3 UCLA Pac-12 42-13-0 13-3-0 13-4-0 16-6-0 0-0-0
    4 Washington Pac-12 43-11-0 15-4-0 13-3-0 15-4-0 0-0-0
    5 Arizona Pac-12 48-7-0 13-4-0 9-1-0 26-2-0 0-0-0
    6 Auburn Southeastern 46-10-0 10-4-0 8-2-0 28-4-0 0-0-0
    7 Florida St. Atlantic Coast 51-6-1 19-5-0 7-1-1 25-0-0 0-0-0
    8 Texas A&M Southeastern 42-10-0 9-3-0 5-1-0 28-6-0 0-0-0
    9 Tennessee Southeastern 44-10-0 10-4-0 11-2-0 23-4-0 0-0-0
    10 Baylor Big 12 43-12-0 10-8-0 9-2-0 24-2-0 0-0-0
    11 Minnesota Big Ten 54-3-0 20-3-0 18-0-0 16-0-0 0-0-0
    12 Oklahoma Big 12 50-8-0 16-0-0 14-7-0 20-1-0 0-0-0
    13 James Madison Colonial 50-6-0 16-2-0 18-2-0 16-2-0 0-0-0
    14 LSU Southeastern 41-18-0 7-9-0 7-4-0 27-5-0 0-0-0
    15 Alabama Southeastern 42-16-0 9-9-0 6-1-0 27-6-0 0-0-0
    16 Louisiana Sun Belt 45-6-0 12-1-0 3-0-0 30-5-0 0-0-0

    Not a JMU or a Minn fan, but ... it's the NCAA's RPI!

    Have to hate pure politics in sports

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    Just in case that's not enough, the coaches poll...

    1 Florida (22) 782 50-5 1
    2 Minnesota (5) 754 51-3 4
    3 Oregon (5) 744 44-6 5
    4 Florida State 694 48-6-1 2
    5 Arizona 671 48-7 3
    6 Oklahoma 645 47-8 6
    7 Auburn 570 45-9 9
    8 Washington 564 40-11 7
    9 Tennessee 547 44-9 11
    10 UCLA 529 39-13 12
    11 Texas A&M 505 42-9 8
    12 James Madison 440 47-6 13
    13 Utah 414 33-11 10
    14 Louisiana 373 42-6 15
    15 Alabama 337 40-15 14
    16 Baylor 306 41-11 17

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    ^^^^and this happens in basketball and other NCAA sports as well RPI is not gospel it is just one of many metrics used

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