- Dec 16, 2010
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BM - "You (and others) teach pitchers that whip MUST INCLUDE 6/12 rotation"
I don't recall Bill ever putting quite it like that. At least since 2008 (when I began my descent into madness), Bill has forcefully advocated that the pitch should change planes and use topspin or backspin. I believe Bill would try to fix any bullet spin pitch whether or not it's produced with I/R, and Bill's "students who had bullet spin that lost it when they were instructed to whip or snap their elbow harder at the release" are a consequence of Bill either tweaking or overhauling (depending on the need) technique to produce the desired spin.
Unless you're saying that bullet spin is the only possible outcome of proper I/R, (and I know you don't--your down-and-in-spinny-graphic shows a 7/1? spin) then I don't see much of a disagreement between the two of you.
You seem more willing to accept bullet spin as a possible outcome of I/R or whip than Bill.
My 11-yr-old produces both bullet and topspin randomly on her fastball, so this discussion is very timely for me.
I don't recall Bill ever putting quite it like that. At least since 2008 (when I began my descent into madness), Bill has forcefully advocated that the pitch should change planes and use topspin or backspin. I believe Bill would try to fix any bullet spin pitch whether or not it's produced with I/R, and Bill's "students who had bullet spin that lost it when they were instructed to whip or snap their elbow harder at the release" are a consequence of Bill either tweaking or overhauling (depending on the need) technique to produce the desired spin.
Unless you're saying that bullet spin is the only possible outcome of proper I/R, (and I know you don't--your down-and-in-spinny-graphic shows a 7/1? spin) then I don't see much of a disagreement between the two of you.
You seem more willing to accept bullet spin as a possible outcome of I/R or whip than Bill.
My 11-yr-old produces both bullet and topspin randomly on her fastball, so this discussion is very timely for me.