Batting Out of Order

[CycloneSoftball22]

This past weekend our #8 and #9 batters batted in the wrong order. #9 popped up , then #8 got a single. Other team then caught the mistake. Question is : Who should be at bat now?

 

[Comp]

#9 at bat was legitimized when a pitch was thrown to #8. #1 should have been at bat instead of #8, so #1 is out on the batting out of order, #8 would be removed from base and #2 would be the correct batter.

 

[Umpire]

Which rule set? The total outcome of the play varies by rule set and you may not get the applicable answer if we don't know the rule set.

 

[CycloneSoftball22]

Which rule set? The total outcome of the play varies by rule set and you may not get the applicable answer if we don't know the rule set.

This was USSSA

 

[BretMan]

Which rule set? The total outcome of the play varies by rule set and you may not get the applicable answer if we don't know the rule set.

Which rule set has a different answer and what is different about it?

 

[Scarecrow]

Here's the USSSA rule:

Batting out of order is an appeal play by the defensive.

A batter is in proper order if he follows the preceding player in the lineup, a player is considered to be at bat as soon as she enters the batters box and one pitch has been thrown.

The defensive may appeal that the batter was not the correct batter until there has been one pitch to the next batter.
After one pitch, the defensive may only appeal that the current batter is not the correct batter.

If the current batter in the batter’s box with one pitch is not the correct batter, the correct batter is brought to bat and assumes the ball – strike count.
No one is called out for batting out of order when there is a count on the batter.
All advances made shall stand.

If the batter who just completed her time at bat is not the correct batter, on appeal, the correct batter is declared out.
The batter is removed from base.

All outs made on other runners on the play stand.
Any advance by runners on the play is nullified.
No runs can score on the play.
If the batter was out, the out will be rescinded because of the correct batter’s out.
The next batter is the player who follows the correct batter (who was declared out) in the batting order.
All advances made before the batter became a batter runner shall stand.

If I'm reading this right, the other team would have had to appeal it prior to the first pitch to the #8 batter (batting 2nd). Once she (the #8 batter) took one pitch, and if the other team would have appealed, then the #9 batter would come back up to bat with the count #8 batter had. Once the #8 batter took a second pitch, any out of order is null and void.

 

[BretMan]

Here's the USSSA rule:


If I'm reading this right...

I don't think that you're reading it right.

See Comp's answer in post #2.

 

[SoCal_Dad]

If I'm reading this right, the other team would have had to appeal it prior to the first pitch to the #8 batter (batting 2nd).
True for #9 batting out of order. However, both #9 and #8 batted out of order. If they had appealed #9, the result would be rescind #9's pop out, declare #8 out and put #9 at bat.

Once she (the #8 batter) took one pitch, and if the other team would have appealed, then the #9 batter would come back up to bat with the count #8 batter had.
Incorrect - #1 would be the correct batter. As Comp posted above, #9's AB was legitimized by the lack of appeal.

Once the #8 batter took a second pitch, any out of order is null and void.

Incorrect, #8 is out of order until a pitch is made to the next batter.

 

[Comp]

Here's the USSSA rule:





If I'm reading this right, the other team would have had to appeal it prior to the first pitch to the #8 batter (batting 2nd). Once she (the #8 batter) took one pitch, and if the other team would have appealed, then the #9 batter would come back up to bat with the count #8 batter had. Once the #8 batter took a second pitch, any out of order is null and void.

#9 batted out of order. The instant a pitch was delivered after #9 completed their at bat, it legitimized #9's at bat and #9 being out of order can no longer be appealed. However, now the correct batter should be #1, but instead #8 continued at bat, making them the out of order batter and appealable at the end of the at bat.

 

[Umpire]

Which rule set has a different answer and what is different about it?

NCAA is different than ASA, which is different than PONY...