Batting out of order

1) Player listed 4th in the batting order comes up to bat out of order as the first batter of the game and hits a single. No appeal.
2) Player listed 2nd in the order comes up to bat and also hits a single. No appeal.
3) Player listed 3rd comes up to bat and after the first pitch becomes the proper batter. She hits a single.

Bases are now loaded. The proper batter is now supposed to be the player listed 4th who is on 3rd base. From an offensive perspective, this situation can't be fixed since the correct batter is now on base, right?

If an appeal is made after the first pitch to the next batter but while the batter is still up, in theory, the correct batter can assume the at bat and retain the count. Since batter #4 is on base, what happens?

Alternatively, given the same situation with bases loaded: the player listed 1st in the order comes up to bat (when the #4 batter should be batting). Hits a grounder to short who makes a play at 2nd and gets the force out of batter #3 coming from 1st. Runner on third scores (batter #4).

Before the next pitch an appeal is made.

If I understand this correctly:

a) The out at second stands (happened before the appeal)
b) Player listed 4th, who was supposed to be batting, is out.
c) Advancements are negated so Player listed 2nd, who is now standing on third base, is put back on second base.
d) Likewise, Player listed 4th (who scored from 3rd) is put back on 3rd?.

So, the player listed 4th both is called out (for batting out of order) and is placed back on 3rd?

I hate to piggy back on this thread, but had a similar situation this weekend and wanted to know how to handle in future.

We had 7th hitter up in top of 3rd. We picked runner off of 3rd to end inning. Next inning the 8th hitter leads off and K's. The top of the lineup is stacked so we want the
7-8-9 hitter to bat, even though she is out, could we have appealed after the 8th hitter hit and make her hit again with 1 out?

Once a pitch was thrown to #2 in the order, #4's at bat became legal and the next batter should have been 5. Since no appeal was made, once a pitch was thrown to #3, #2's at bat became legal and #3 is now the correct batter. Since none of the batting out of order was appealed, all action became legal and #4 should be the next batter, but they are on base. #4 is simply skipped in the batting order without penalty and #5 comes to bat.

In your alternate situation, #5 actually should have been at bat. If properly appealed prior to a pitch to the next batter, #1's at bat is negated, #5 would be called out for batting out of order, any outs made on the play stand other than if an out had been made on #1 and all runners return to the bases occupied at the time of the pitch (other than those that may have been put out on the play) and #6 would be the next batter.

canyonjoe said:

I hate to piggy back on this thread, but had a similar situation this weekend and wanted to know how to handle in future.

We had 7th hitter up in top of 3rd. We picked runner off of 3rd to end inning. Next inning the 8th hitter leads off and K's. The top of the lineup is stacked so we want the
7-8-9 hitter to bat, even though she is out, could we have appealed after the 8th hitter hit and make her hit again with 1 out?

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Yes, you can appeal the batting out of order. #8's at bat would be negated, #7 would be called out for batting out of order and #8 would come back to bat as the proper batter.

Comp said:

Yes, you can appeal the batting out of order. #8's at bat would be negated, #7 would be called out for batting out of order and #8 would come back to bat as the proper batter.

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If we didn't notice until number 9 batter came up and had a pitch thrown we are just stuck in that place in the order? Is that correct?

Yes, a pitch legal or illegal to the following batter makes the at bat legal.