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bmd

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This is my first post. I have been a long time lurker but a short time member. I am very impressed with this site and am very impressed by the knowledge of the members. I am also impressed with the many clips that are posted.

Here is the current situation. dd will be 12 in a week. She has been pitching for 2 years. Last spring she was doing very well. In my opinion she had solid mechanics (except with a habit of over rotating at the top of her circle and then pushing the ball…sometimes). She played 10U. This fall she moved to 12U. She hit a major growth spurt in August and really she seems to be still going through the spurt. Anyway, her speed has drastically reduced this fall, her control is out the window, her coach got frustrated and began riding her case and told her that she was “throwing horrible”, and she started to slow down her arm at the end of her pitch in order to correct (VERY BAD). She looked very fatigued this past November. So she basically took part of November and December off (with my encouragement). She threw only once a week in December and we worked on as you call it IR and speeding up downswing. I worked on her confidence. By saying lets not worry about where the ball is going just throw….let it rip…..don’t hold back. And trying to get her to laugh when she did something not quite right. Now she is back to throwing three times a week. Seems like the break did more bad than good. Because now she is a little taller her arms a little longer her legs a little longer and she is basically learning to pitch in her new body. Most of her pitches are going high or in the dirt. Her circle has improved however. I wish that I had the softballs to post a video…..Anyway, I am just curious if this is a normal process that developing young pitchers go through?? Is it normal to go through this frustrating phase that we seem to be stuck in?

Any ideas? Suggestions??
 

JJsqueeze

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Jul 5, 2013
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It does not match my experience. My daughter's speed increased through her 11-12 year old growth spurt. Her accuracy has come and gone a little but nothing too drastic and never for more than a few weeks. The longer distance and bigger ball could be contributing to the issues you are seeing.

As for having the softballs to post video, it really is the only way to get accurate feedback on what she may be doing. We are not nearly as mean as those hitting forum guys so I suggest posting it.
 
Dec 19, 2012
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Did her speed decrease or is she throwing the same speed but it looks slower because she is 5 feet further back? Is her control different due to the larger softball? I think a growth spurt plus different diameter ball plus different pitching distance could be bothersome to a young kid. I've definitely seen pitchers dominate at 10u and end up "run of the mill" at 12u.
 

bmd

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Lenski- Thanks for the reply. As long as my dd loves and wants to pitch, I refuse to believe that because she has hit a bump means that she is and will end up "run of the mill". I know that learning to pitch is not a fast process. I know that it takes awhile for a kid to really develop. I also realize that not every kid that was dominate at 10U will continue to be. You are right that her speed may look slower now with the distance increase....but right now we are looking a lot slower. My main reason for posting was to get a feel for if anyone has gone through what she is going through and if so how did they overcome.
 
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I wasn't referring to your dd and her ability. I'm sorry if you took it that way. I was just talking in general terms. The reason those particular kids did not continue to dominate was because they did not grow much or get stronger . Our pitcher (back in the day) who was very good at 10u appeared to slow down a bunch between 10u and 12u. She also had a problem getting the ball to the plate at times and started this weird lean to her glove-hand side.....like she was trying to give the pitch something extra. Her body stayed thin and short and she never really recovered as a pitcher. She was awsome as a 9 and 10 year old throwing an 11" ball from 35 feet, and she was "average" from 11 years old until she quit softball at age 14. But your dd is growing and getting stronger and probably just needs to figure some things out.

I'm sure your dd will be just fine......just give her a little time, encouragement, and instruction.
 
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I'm sure your dd will be just fine......just give her a little time, encouragement, and instruction.

I would agree with this advice. From time to time some pitchers will go through a funk. If you both have the patience to ride it through I'm sure it will turn out alright in the end.
 

bmd

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Thank you for the encouragement!!! Its been a really tough process to watch lately. Last year this time she was 4 11 weighing 90 pounds now she stands at 5 3 weighing 118 pounds. I can't wait until she finds out that she can use her new body to her advantage. But I also realize that she may never discover this, loose interest and move on.
 

JJsqueeze

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Jul 5, 2013
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maybe you ride it out and everything is fine, maybe she has severe mechanical flaws that are killing her. Without posting video you will never know and you will not be able to take full advantage of the board. There are nationally renowned pitching coaches lurking around here that just might give you free advice.
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
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First year 12U is a big transition for pitchers. Pitching distance goes from 35' to 40' and they switch to a 12" ball. And if that was not enough most of them are going through dramatic growth spurts. Just keep working hard, focusing on solid mechanics and she will eventually find the release point. It is a constant struggle at this age, so just keep practicing. Someones throwing to a spot on a tarp at 25' is easier and more effective than throwing to a catcher.
 
Jan 7, 2014
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This is my first post. I have been a long time lurker but a short time member. I am very impressed with this site and am very impressed by the knowledge of the members. I am also impressed with the many clips that are posted.

Here is the current situation. dd will be 12 in a week. She has been pitching for 2 years. Last spring she was doing very well. In my opinion she had solid mechanics (except with a habit of over rotating at the top of her circle and then pushing the ball…sometimes). She played 10U. This fall she moved to 12U. She hit a major growth spurt in August and really she seems to be still going through the spurt. Anyway, her speed has drastically reduced this fall, her control is out the window, her coach got frustrated and began riding her case and told her that she was “throwing horrible”,Suggestion #1 have a talk with the coach. I'm certain your DD knows she's at a low point. If he was a "real" coach IMO he would be either correct her mechanics or get her to someone who can correct her mechanics. Making a "Captain Obvious" negative statement is as useful as lips on a chicken and she started to slow down her arm at the end of her pitch in order to correct (VERY BAD). She looked very fatigued this past November. So she basically took part of November and December off (with my encouragement). She threw only once a week in December and we worked on as you call it IR and speeding up downswing. I worked on her confidence. By saying lets not worry about where the ball is going just throw….let it rip…..don’t hold back. And trying to get her to laugh when she did something not quite right. Now she is back to throwing three times a week. Seems like the break did more bad than good. Because now she is a little taller her arms a little longer her legs a little longer and she is basically learning to pitch in her new body. Most of her pitches are going high or in the dirt. Her circle has improved however. I wish that I had the softballs to post a video…..Anyway, I am just curious if this is a normal process that developing young pitchers go through?? Is it normal to go through this frustrating phase that we seem to be stuck in?

Any ideas? Suggestions??

You need to post some video...it really would be helpful...my DD2 who is 11 now took to I\R like white on rice and really took off once we started seeing JavaSource last year...that being said, she's grown almost 6" in the past year and I've seen similar control issues...not to the extent that you have but she used to consistently throw 70-75% strikes at `43mph last year at 10U from 35' with an 11" ball...now she throws 45mph with the bigger ball from 40 feet but is down in the 60% "strikes thrown" range...the issue can be generalized as a forward "lean" in her pitch...so we have really focused on her posture to and through the pitch. This is easier said than done because she now has an extra 6" of height to "control" in her posture...

2 weeks ago we worked really hard with Java to fix this...we did fix it...but now all of her pitches are high because we changed her body angle...we stayed the course and finally tonight was the first time in a while that she had great control. My point not being "look at what my DD did" my point is that you need to identify the mechanical flaw(s) and if you can't do it, post it here - people will help or seek a pitching coach in your area who teaches I\R and can't help get your DD back to feeling confident and successful about her abilities in the circle...CP
 

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