Poor sportsmanship

[KCPRK]

That is the first one and agree with you. The 2nd one the C was the aggressor.

So we got two sides retaliating against each other. I do agree that's wrong and everyone loses.

I stand by the runner could avoid a collision if she wanted to. Not saying either party is right or wrong just different choices could have been made.

OP asked our opinion based on what we saw-funny how people troll those that they disagree with. (not referring to you quincy)

 

[KCPRK]

^^^^ Really ?? The ball is in the outfield and you are telling me the catcher needs to block the base path like that?? Besides being unsportsmanlike it is against the rules The big thing I don't get is why like in baseball the girls don't police this kind of stuff on their own. By HS baseball and for sure by college no baseball catcher in the right mind would try this, their own team captain would rip them a new one for putting a target on the rest of the team, the next play at the plate would involve the catcher getting blown up and that 85mph fastball in his back would not feel very good either...not that it is right or wrong...but lessons are learned at at this stage in their baseball career boys know the rules of the road either they are taught right in the first place or they learn them the hard way.

Don't we teach the catcher to step infornt of the plate towards the pitcher on a non play at home? Look at her position in the first one-shes out of the basepath.

Doesn't the runner run in foul territory towards first and towards home as well. That is the basepath-to the right of the line. If you run inside the line and get hit with the ball aren't you out because your interfering with the play (because you aren't supposed to be there).

Now the second one I do see what yall are saying after rewatching it a dozen times lol-possible retaliation. My opinion on the second one was both the runner and the catcher were looking for a collision.

To me nobody is in the right here.

 

[riseball]

What happened or what was said prior to the incident is not a mitigating factor with regard to the behavior of the catcher. Her actions stand on their own. What else happened is a different conversation.

 

[Rocketech1]

The big thing I don't get is why like in baseball the girls don't police this kind of stuff on their own.

Because baseball players are idiots if they resort to this type of retaliation. The rules are pretty clear, if you intentionally lower your shoulder without the ball and knock the baserunner off her feet, you should be ejected. Nothing else needs to be said or done. I'm personally glad that softball is played with a respect for the game and doesn't have to resort to retaliation to "police" the game. This old school mentality in baseball needs to be eradicated once and for all.

 

[BobInMadison]

^^^^ Really ?? The ball is in the outfield and you are telling me the catcher needs to block the base path like that?? Besides being unsportsmanlike it is against the rules The big thing I don't get is why like in baseball the girls don't police this kind of stuff on their own. By HS baseball and for sure by college no baseball catcher in the right mind would try this, their own team captain would rip them a new one for putting a target on the rest of the team, the next play at the plate would involve the catcher getting blown up and that 85mph fastball in his back would not feel very good either...not that it is right or wrong...but lessons are learned at at this stage in their baseball career boys know the rules of the road either they are taught right in the first place or they learn them the hard way.

There does appear to be a different culture in baseball and softball as far as retaliation. In some levels of baseball, esp. professional baseball, the runner would've come back and plowed over the catcher as the catcher was receiving the ball, and the benches would clear within a few seconds. I still remember watching an interview with Lenny Dykstra after a game. He found the bench-clearing brawl to be the best part of the game.

 

[Cannonball]

If you look at the angle you can see she had plenty of space to touch home plate that sticks our 10 inches outside the chalk line. the chalkline goes to the front of the plate.

If the catcher was straddling the chalkline and facing third that's blocking the plate but she was in fair territory and facing the pitcher-she may have been close to the basepath but wasn't blocking the plate-she gave the runner the basepath that the runner chose. the runner chose to change directions and the runner initiated the contact. If the runner had stayed in her chosen base path this wouldn't even have been close to a collision.

Again what would we be saying if the runner bowled over the catcher and sent her flying on a non play at home? Wed be yelling at the runner for taking a cheap shot.

Perception.



That's what I see in the small video segment as I didn't watch the game or know anything about the players or teams.

The chaulk line goes to the back angles of the plate and not the front of the plate.

Edited to add:

Her foot is on the base line in the first collision as well. She is in the basepath. The basepath is not only in the foul area beyond the line. It includes the line and the front of the plate.

 

[BobInMadison]

After discussions in another thread, I had a discussion with my pitcher daughter about intentional HBP in softball. DD said she strongly believes she has never seen an intentional HBP. She also said the ONLY reason she would even consider such a thing would be if another pitcher intentionally hit her.

Yes, I generally like that the retaliation factor is pretty much out of the picture in softball, but that puts the onus on blue to make the call.

 

[KCPRK]

What happened or what was said prior to the incident is not a mitigating factor with regard to the behavior of the catcher. Her actions stand on their own. What else happened is a different conversation.

Good point-coach always said the one who throws the second hit or punch always gets the flag in football.

I googled and found a conversation among the two teams parents. Apparently there were fights in the stands by parents during the game and that sportsmanship by both teams was vulgar. The other team tried to decleat the runner teams catcher at one point. Parents on both sides say players were instructed by coaches to initiate a collision anywhere they could and "take a fall". etc etc.

A black eye for the sport on tv regardless of the reason or aggressor.

 

[AndyS]

^^^^ Really ?? The ball is in the outfield and you are telling me the catcher needs to block the base path like that?? Besides being unsportsmanlike it is against the rules The big thing I don't get is why like in baseball the girls don't police this kind of stuff on their own. By HS baseball and for sure by college no baseball catcher in the right mind would try this, their own team captain would rip them a new one for putting a target on the rest of the team, the next play at the plate would involve the catcher getting blown up and that 85mph fastball in his back would not feel very good either...not that it is right or wrong...but lessons are learned at at this stage in their baseball career boys know the rules of the road either they are taught right in the first place or they learn them the hard way.

Did it ever cross your mind or anybody here advocating girls "police" the game like boys that the catcher was "policing" or retaliating for something that happened earlier in the game? I am not even saying that is right or wrong but it is hilarious how in today's online social media world we can be so sure we know ALL the facts based on two video snippets. And then advocate something that the catcher might have actually been doing!! Maybe in an earlier play the catcher was well off the plate and they took a shot at her. Even possible? Or maybe these runners were taking cheap shots on fielders as they were running the bases. Possible she was policing the game?

Like I said in previous posts what was captured looked awful but I also know I don't have all the facts.

 

[Grogger31]

I don't think any of this means that Megan is now not a sweet young lady, great young lady or great player.

I completely disagree. I think it indicates she's neither sweet young lady nor a great young lady.

As I said, I am not going to fuel the fire. She doesn't deserve this rap.

She doesn't deserve this rap? She's a dirty player, whether or not you choose to like her personally.