what do you think of a coach who yells at a player for taking a BB?

[Sweet Lou]

There are times you want your run producers to swing at close balls, particularly if the girls behind them are struggling. But to yell at someone for taking a BB is beyond stupid.

 

[Little Angels Softball]

Obviously she had quality ABs if she had 3 RBI on an 0-3 with a BB day. She had to put the ball in play every AB to get that line, unless one of the RBI came on the walk with the bases loaded. And if that happened .... well, I can't see any reason the coach would be upset by that.

I guess I could see it if she let a really good pitch go with a full count and the ump missed the call to save her butt. Or, perhaps if she walked with runners on 2B and 3B and two outs in a one-run game and the worst hitter on the team coming up after her, but if the 2-hole hitter on that team is their worst, then someone needs to yell at the coach.

I'm not sure more info would even help here, but I'm all ears.

 

[riseball]

Obviously she had quality ABs if she had 3 RBI on an 0-3 with a BB day. She had to put the ball in play every AB to get that line, unless one of the RBI came on the walk with the bases loaded. And if that happened .... well, I can't see any reason the coach would be upset by that.

I guess I could see it if she let a really good pitch go with a full count and the ump missed the call to save her butt. Or, perhaps if she walked with runners on 2B and 3B and two outs in a one-run game and the worst hitter on the team coming up after her, but if the 2-hole hitter on that team is their worst, then someone needs to yell at the coach.

I'm not sure more info would even help here, but I'm all ears.

Not sure how anyone could know or deduce that based on the information at hand. A good guess maybe, but nothing more. Again it is about the process not the end result. It is quite possible to put up great numbers and have horrendous execution at the plate.

 

[AndyS]

Again it is about the process not the end result.

This in my view is probably the MOST important thing to understand as a coach. Having said that how many times do we see end result being coached? Drives me nuts...

 

[guero_gordo]

It would depend on what he told her before the AB.

 

[riseball]

This in my view is probably the MOST important thing to understand as a coach. Having said that how many times do we see end result being coached? Drives me nuts...

Had a player that we coached for several weeks about taking an outside pitch backside with runners in scoring position. Runners at 2nd and 3rd and she rips an 0-2 curve down the left field line for a double scoring both runners. Parents were at a loss when I put in a runner and sat her the rest of the game. After the game I let her explain it to them. Almost overnight she learned to execute that skill quite well.

 

[Little Angels Softball]

Obviously she had quality ABs if she had 3 RBI on an 0-3 with a BB day. She had to put the ball in play every AB to get that line, unless one of the RBI came on the walk with the bases loaded. And if that happened .... well, I can't see any reason the coach would be upset by that.

I guess I could see it if she let a really good pitch go with a full count and the ump missed the call to save her butt. Or, perhaps if she walked with runners on 2B and 3B and two outs in a one-run game and the worst hitter on the team coming up after her, but if the 2-hole hitter on that team is their worst, then someone needs to yell at the coach.

I'm not sure more info would even help here, but I'm all ears.

It is quite possible to put up great numbers and have horrendous execution at the plate.

Absolutely correct. However, any AB that ends with any RBI is a quality AB, horrendously-executed or not.

He said she was 0-3 with a BB and had 3 RBI on the day. Since she could have only had a maximum of 1 RBI with the BB, and since she had no hits, no single AB could have produced more than one RBI. Therefore she had to produce at least one RBI with two of the three ABs, minimum. If she didn't get an RBI with the walk, then all three of her ABs produced an RBI. By definition those are quality ABs.

 

[riseball]

Absolutely correct. However, any AB that ends with any RBI is a quality AB, horrendously-executed or not....

I guess I hold my players to a higher standard. For me the end result simply does not justify the means. Unfortunately, that is a a concept that is foreign to many college bound players. Poor execution is just that, poor execution. I do not reward my players for pulling an outside pitch and getting on via an error on a weak ground ball simply because a run happened to came in. Likewise I do not provide accolades to the pitcher who gets a K on pitch that was down the middle of the plate. I refuse to celebrate mediocrity regardless of a positive outcome. When you do, you only foster a culture of mediocrity.

 

[coach james]

Get on base..........period!
Who gives a crap how you got on, just find a way on. It's hard to score from the dugout.

 

[riseball]

Get on base..........period!
Who gives a crap how you got on, just find a way on. It's hard to score from the dugout.

Every college coach I have ever spoken to.

Following this logic some of you would be fine with a batter electing not to lay down a bunt on a squeeze, so long as the run scored? High fives all the way around? Please tell me the name of a top college coach that would not lose their mind if a player not only failed to execute in such a situation but decided not to execute as instructed. Do not confuse finding a way to get on base with crap mechanics or failure to execute. You get on base through proper mechanics and execution.