Who is in whos camp?

[julray]

Look pretty similar to me other than individual style....

Both stills are before the hands start to move forward.. Can you please explain the greater flexion is Bonds rear leg. I would imagine this is indicative of more weight, more pressure on the rear leg. Meaning it goes beyond style if that's the case

 

[julray]

They are both leveraged before launching the swing. One gets more forward then the other but neither compromise the rear leg/hip relationship and utilizes the core to whip the bat.

I won't argue with that.. but Bonds FYB is different than JD's, it's not just style. IMO, JD looks in a much better position to me to get to any pitch and truly leverage the legs

 

[FP26]

Both stills are before the hands start to move forward.. Can you please explain the greater flexion is Bonds rear leg. I would imagine this is indicative of more weight, more pressure on the rear leg. Meaning it goes beyond style if that's the case

The explanation that TDS provided is fair, in my opinion. Whether you choose to focus on the core or the torso is irrelevant to me. Both are important.

 

[TDS]

I won't argue with that.. but Bonds FYB is different than JD's, it's not just style. IMO, JD looks in a much better position to me to get to any pitch and truly leverage the legs

Yea, I think JD is more forward and stacked.. Bonds not as forward but seems to create the same core stretch against the opening up and lowering his COG.

 

[FP26]

Yea, I think JD is more forward and stacked.. Bonds not as forward but seems to create the same core stretch against the opening up and lowering his COG.

Bonds tends to get lower than Martinez. I don't think either option is bad, it's just different. That's why I refer to it as style. I know some people get offended by the word "style", but it is not meant as an insult. Either swing would be great to emulate. As I stated earlier, the things I look for in a swing are present in both of these players.

 

[hacksaw]

rotation. i guess i am in my own camp. back shoulder up. head on the ball. weight back. ROTATE thru the zone.

 

[julray]

Bonds tends to get lower than Martinez. I don't think either option is bad, it's just different. That's why I refer to it as style. I know some people get offended by the word "style", but it is not meant as an insult. Either swing would be great to emulate. As I stated earlier, the things I look for in a swing are present in both of these players.

No worries it did not insult me . I do think there is something to be said for the early bending of the knee in Bonds swing. IMO, this creates a earlier uphill path in the swing. Basically Bonds starts uphill earlier in his swing. I don't think that's a trivial thing.. and something that needs to be considered when looking at which swing to emulate

 

[FP26]

No worries it did not insult me . I do think there is something to be said for the early bending of the knee in Bonds swing. IMO, this creates a earlier uphill path in the swing. Basically Bonds starts uphill earlier in his swing. I don't think that's a trivial thing.. and something that needs to be considered when looking at which swing to emulate

There are things Bonds does with his posture that lead to a steeper attack angle. I just don't consider the differences to be absolutes. That's why I refer to it as style.

 

[Shawn]

Yea, I think JD is more forward and stacked.. Bonds not as forward but seems to create the same core stretch against the opening up and lowering his COG.

He has a running start.

 

[TDS]

He has a running start.

They both have a running start its what allows them to get leveraged fyb.